Talk:Outdoor life

Outdoor life overview requested

Swept in from the pub

Just started an article on Outdoor life, and re-categorized some of the related articles. There is a lot of material on hiking, packing for a week of hiking and wilderness backpacking as well as some scattered information in stay safe, but a generalized overview of the topic is needed. /Yvwv (talk) 16:22, 19 September 2015 (UTC)

Just to ask the question, why is an overview needed? The subject is rather broad so it is unlikely that much could be added to give more definition to the subject.

Lively prose will always make an article more interesting, but I would just caution against writing text at the beginning for the sake of having text there. --Andrewssi2 (talk) 22:41, 19 September 2015 (UTC)

Camping is a disambiguation and hunting just redirects to recreational shooting. K7L (talk) 13:03, 20 September 2015 (UTC)

I think these hierarchies should be looked over. As I stated in Talk:Travel activities#Hierarchy the hierarchies are messy, and I think we should design a clear, working, hierarchy before making any more structural pages. Outdoor life sounds like a good topic, but it is not in any way clear where it belongs in the travel topics hierarchy. The middle layer travel topic articles should reflect the breadcrumb hierarchy, with see also entries linked in a way separating them from subtopics (competing middle layer articles should be treated like the extraregions: only see also like links).

I am not convinced about the optimality of a breadcrumb trail like Travel topics > Travel activities > Outdoor life > Camping > Car camping. This one could be changed (I think camping should be under Travel topics > Sleep), but I think it reflects the general messiness of our structure.

--LPfi (talk) 20:34, 20 September 2015 (UTC)

Scope

Could we please define the scope of this article. I don't see how winter driving and aviation are outdoor life, but trying to curate the article without having a well-defined scope is difficult, with the risk of frustrating contributors with a view differing from mine.

The article links to w:Outdoor recreation, which says:

Outdoor recreation or outdoor activity refers to recreation engaged in out of doors, most commonly in natural settings. The activities themselves — such as fishing, hunting, backpacking, and horseback riding — characteristically dependant on the environmnet practiced in.

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Other traditional examples of outdoor recreational activities include hiking, camping, mountaineering, cycling, canoeing, caving, kayaking, rafting, rock climbing, running, sailing, skiing, sky diving and surfing. As new pursuits, often hybrids of prior ones, emerge, they gain their own identities, such as coasteering, canyoning, fastpacking, and plogging.

I now removed all driving and sports articles, as well as Cruising on small craft, Hitchhiking and the Winter in ... ones.

--LPfi (talk) 13:53, 16 May 2020 (UTC)

I notice the winter articles are breadcrumbed here. Oh dear. Why is winter under activities? Yes I understand, but is it there readers will search? This mess needs to be sorted out. Where is the breadcrumb logic for travel topics explained and discussed? --LPfi (talk) 14:00, 16 May 2020 (UTC)