Talk:San Gimignano

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The "Sleep" section currently looks promotional and doesn't include any sleeps actually in San Gimignano. I've never slept in San Gimignano, but the sleeps that should lead off the list here should be within the city walls, because the whole point of sleeping in San Gimignano is being there at night, when there is a more relaxed ambiance after the day-trippers are gone. Michael 01:36, 27 June 2006 (UTC)

"Understand" section[edit]

I'm putting this here to note that it's inadequate. Something about the history of this fortress city is needed. I believe it was an Etruscan city, and of course a Medieval one. Ikan Kekek (talk) 11:04, 1 November 2018 (UTC)


Can we replace the current banner: San Giminiano banner.jpg

With this one: Wv San Gimignano banner2.jpg

Ground Zero (talk) 10:55, 13 February 2021 (UTC)

I prefer the existing banner. It's a much higher-quality picture in that the buildings have more definition and the sky is blue, rather than an annoying grayish. It would be disappointing if the day you visited San Gimignano, the weather was like that. Ikan Kekek (talk) 11:30, 13 February 2021 (UTC)
The problem I have with the existing banner is that it really doesn't convey the idea of the towers. You have to know what you are looking at already to get the picture. But I haven't been able to find a better image. Ground Zero (talk) 13:50, 13 February 2021 (UTC)
Totally understood. Are there any pictures of specific scenes within the city, facades of buildings or art which could be turned into pagebanners? Ikan Kekek (talk) 18:45, 13 February 2021 (UTC)

Option C: Gimignano z00 (cropped).jpg

Option D: Wv San Gimignano banner3.jpg

Ground Zero (talk) 22:00, 13 February 2021 (UTC)

Great! Option C has a nice composition, but it's a little fuzzy. I'd support switch to Option D, which is also a good composition, IMO. Ikan Kekek (talk) 23:04, 13 February 2021 (UTC)
Seeing no further comments, I'll apply D. Thanks. Ground Zero (talk) 13:03, 20 February 2021 (UTC)
This is superweird. I applied option D — File:Italy-0996 (5198642354) (cropped).jpg — but what appears is the cityscape I proposed at the beginning — File:Wv San Gimignano banner2.jpg. I can't figure out why that is happening. Ground Zero (talk) 13:07, 20 February 2021 (UTC)
I don't get it, either. Ikan Kekek (talk) 13:16, 20 February 2021 (UTC)
It may have to do with the file names. I have requested that File:Italy-0996 (5198642354) (cropped).jpg be renamed File:Wv San Gimignano banner3.jpg. That might do it. Ground Zero (talk) 13:40, 20 February 2021 (UTC)
@Ikan Kekek: The filename was changed, I've updated the banner to File:Wv San Gimignano banner3.jpg, but it is still showing File:Wv San Gimignano banner2.jpg. I'll check back within a day or two to see if it changes. Ground Zero (talk) 14:39, 22 February 2021 (UTC)

Solved it. In the Wikidata page (desktop version), there is an entry for Wikivoyage banner, which seems to override anything we put directly on the page. This applies the banner across various language versions of Wikivoyage, but it raises issues, I think, in that (a) I doubt many Wikivoyagers are aware of this, and (b) it is not clear where discussion would take place about changing a banner. (This change was applied across all Wikivoyages except Italian and Hebrew, which still have banner 2, and German, which does not have a banner.) Ground Zero (talk) 14:59, 22 February 2021 (UTC)

Yeah, that's not good at all. We can't have Wikidata overriding the choices of individual Wikivoyages. What should we do about that, start a thread in the equivalent of the pub in Wikidata? Ikan Kekek (talk) 20:38, 22 February 2021 (UTC)
Yeah, I guess we should. I don't really feel like opening that can of worms, though. Just laziness on my part. Ground Zero (talk) 14:18, 23 February 2021 (UTC)
Thread here. Ikan Kekek (talk) 17:45, 23 February 2021 (UTC)
As far as I can tell, this solves the problem. Basically, the pagebanner template is a little finicky and doesn't want us to include "File:" at the beginning of the filename. —Granger (talk · contribs) 20:46, 23 February 2021 (UTC)
If that's all it is, it was a small error to start a thread on Wikidata. Ikan Kekek (talk) 20:55, 23 February 2021 (UTC)
Thanks, Granger. That seems to work. At some point, I will add this information to Wikivoyage:Banner Expedition so that others don't make this mistake. Ground Zero (talk) 20:58, 23 February 2021 (UTC)