Talk:Sound of Music

What is needed for Guide level?

I appreciate that this article got some attention, with the expansion of context on the film's reception in Austria and Germany. What does it need to pass Guide level? Could we possible run it as a featured travel topic for 2025? Yvwv (talk) 15:00, 31 October 2024 (UTC)

oh, it was a joy, to research and write here, it brought me good childhood memories. As far as listings go, I think it's pretty complete now. Maybe a few more pictures? Ibaman (talk) 16:57, 31 October 2024 (UTC)

Yes, pictures are always good. Also, now many of the POIs (eg. Nonnberg Abbey) are just described as how they appear in the film(s), it could be good to have a line or two describing what these places are about outside the films. --Ypsilon (talk) 18:22, 31 October 2024 (UTC)

Done I've tweaked it accordingly. I hope it wouldn't be too much to ask You guYs to watch the German movie, and review my comments on it as accurate, just for quality control. I hope it makes FTT, I'll support the nomination. Ibaman (talk) 01:30, 1 November 2024 (UTC)

Great, now it looks better. Maybe if I remember, get my hands on it and have time as always. The article would go on the Main Page around August next year at earliest, so there is time (or July if we move or slush Gemstones). --Ypsilon (talk) 05:27, 1 November 2024 (UTC)

More locations related to the real-life Trapp family, and the German film, could also be useful. /Yvwv (talk) 10:12, 1 November 2024 (UTC)

The Producers

Should The Producers from 1967 be mentioned here? To some extent, it is a parody of the stereotypical premise of The Sound of Music. /Yvwv (talk) 12:31, 1 November 2024 (UTC)

I haven't watched it and wouldn't be able to help, but the suggestion made me remember w:The Flying Nun, another such parody. Ibaman (talk) 12:36, 1 November 2024 (UTC)

I never thought of The Producers as related to The Sound of Music at all, and no, it shouldn't be mentioned in this article, IMO, but it's one of the funniest movies I've ever seen! Ikan Kekek (talk) 14:48, 1 November 2024 (UTC)

Can someone explain in what way The Producers lampooned The Sound of Music? Ikan Kekek (talk) 01:06, 5 November 2024 (UTC)

Some trivia

Here are some information bits that I think that, even worth mentioning, might be too excessive for the main text, but other editors might think otherwise.

• the other two Oscars were Best Editing and Best Director to Robert Wise. There were five other nominations, among them Best Actress to Julie Andrews. She had won it in the previous year, playing Mary Poppins in the eponymous Disney film.
• the unnamed "one song here (...) an insult to Austrian musical traditions", thus referenced to comply with WV:Avoid negative reviews, is "Edelweiss".
• as Julie Andrews enters Residenzplatz through the arches singing "I Have Confidence", three women are seen crossing the street behind her. One of them is the real Maria von Trapp, who had shown up in the set that day, unannounced and unexpected, asking for participation and recognition.
• in the very final aerial shot, as the family is walking along the ridge and the choir sings "...every day of your life...", in the top left corner, on the hilltop, what looks like a chapel is actually the Kehlsteinhaus, aka "The Eagle's Nest", built as a birthday gift from Martin Bormann to his boss Hitler.

Ibaman (talk) 22:24, 4 November 2024 (UTC)

Why is "Edelweiss" considered an insult to Austrian musical traditions? Ikan Kekek (talk) 01:11, 5 November 2024 (UTC)

this is explained in w:The Sound of Music (film)#Legacy. Ibaman (talk) 09:22, 5 November 2024 (UTC)

It's not explained, just stated in a quote from a quote of unspecified reviewers. I'm none the wiser on why that song in particular is considered an insult. And I'm not sure we should make the statement if we can't explain why critics who are unidentified in the Wikipedia article but might or might not be in the New York Times article available to subscribers made that statement. Ikan Kekek (talk) 10:00, 5 November 2024 (UTC)

Were you able to watch the German movie, IK? I did, and comparing their musical content, I can easily see why the Germanophone audience cares little, musically, about the Hollywood version, and IMHO this sentence smartly, nicely summarizes the reasons why. There's one shining, sparkling rendition of "Silent Night" that alone justifies the effort of searching and watching the German movie entirely. In comparison, "Edelweiss" sounds like Dunkin' Donuts, IMHO again. Ibaman (talk) 10:20, 5 November 2024 (UTC)

I haven't watched the German-language movie. I guess I can see how "Edelweiss" is somewhat inspired by Austrian melodies, but it's not an insult to them, it's just a song in an American musical that romanticizes and somewhat fictionalizes the lives of a family of Austrian musical performers who went into exile after the Anschluss and in fact came to Vermont. And of course I can understand why most Austrians and Germans wouldn't have any interest in a foreign-language musical that purports to be about Austria or Germany. Ikan Kekek (talk) 12:14, 5 November 2024 (UTC)

it's a really heavy-handed and unfair comment about the song, but I thought it relevant to the context here, and this is why I chose to include it and not mention the song's name. Ibaman (talk) 12:46, 5 November 2024 (UTC)

Yeah, it's a pretty song. The song I always found cringy, mostly because of the lyrics was "Farewell," but it was a successful attempt at cutesiness and it has some cool harmonies. Ikan Kekek (talk) 17:55, 5 November 2024 (UTC)

In this matter I have always had "My Favorite Things" as my favorite one, even more after getting to know John Coltrane and his version. But if you had watched the movie as a little child, you do it again and remember drooling over a magical flawless masterpiece, isn't it. Ibaman (talk) 23:17, 5 November 2024 (UTC)

Right. Coltrane was very inventive in reworking that tune. Ikan Kekek (talk) 06:57, 6 November 2024 (UTC)

Why Germans & Austrians have NEVER HEARD of "The Sound of Music"

Video by Feli, a YouTuber I really like who is from Munich and has lived in Cincinnati, Ohio for years now. See it at this link. Ikan Kekek (talk) 05:09, 2 December 2024 (UTC)