Wikivoyage:Destination of the month candidates

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Here we determine which articles are featured on the Main Page as Destination of the month (DotM), Off the Beaten Path (OtBP) and Featured travel topics (FTT).

Nominate[edit]

You can nominate any article you would like to see featured. Any destination, region, itinerary or event that passes the "What is an article?" test is eligible for nomination.

However, before nominating, please check that the article follows these basic guidelines:

  • The nominated article should have an article status of guide or star. This includes having at least one good picture, and listings/headers/etc. that match our manual of style.
  • The nominated article must not have been featured since Wikivoyage became a WMF project in 2013.
  • If the article has been nominated previously but failed, any objections should be addressed before nominating it again.
    • Check the slush pile.
    • If you think a once-slushed destination is now ready to go, list it as new, but with a pointer to the slush pile entry.
    • The article should preferably be nominated 3 to 12 months before the intended feature date; ready to feature as is, or with edits that can be done well before featuring.

Well-known and/or popular destinations should be nominated as Destination of the Month, while more obscure destinations should be nominated for Off the Beaten Path. Featured Travel Topic includes travel topics, phrasebooks, itineraries, and other articles not part of the geographic hierarchy, as well as airports (as they are not usually destinations in their own right). Where applicable, you should propose a good time to visit the destination as a month to be featured.

The basic format of a nomination is as follows:

{{FeatureNom
| place=Destination
| blurb='''[[Destination]]''' is a place of contrasts, and as such it...
| status=Guide
| time=March-June
| nominatedBy=~~~~
| comment=Great article and it's just luvvly-jubbly in the springtime.
| DotMImage=[[File:Destinationimage.jpg|thumb|300px]]
}}

Add a nomination to the end of the appropriate section.

Discuss[edit]

You can comment on any nomination based on timeliness and adherence to the criteria above, just add a bullet point (*) and your signed opinion.

===[[Destination]]===
Great article and it's just luvvly-jubbly in the springtime. TravelNut 25:25, 31 Feb 2525 (UTC)
* Looks nice, but shouldn't the Do section contain more than just quilting contests? ~~~~

Please note that the following are not considered valid reasons to oppose a nomination:

  • "I don't like it." All objections have to be based on the guidelines above: poor formatting, missing information, etc. Personal opinions, dislikes, etc. do not count.
  • "Wrong time of year." Articles are supported or opposed based on their content. Timing can be worked out later.
  • "Wrong type of place." Articles are supported or opposed based on their content. Whether it's DotM or OtBP can be worked out later.

Select[edit]

If an article gets several comments in favor and none against for a week or so, it's eligible to be placed in an appropriate time-slot in the Upcoming queue. If the objections are relatively minor and are being worked on, add them to the Upcoming queue tentatively (add a question mark "?" after the article). Feel free to move the queue around or swap articles if it makes sense. If a nomination clearly does not make the grade and if the objections are not easily fixable, they go into the Slush pile.

Once a nomination has been scheduled, an appropriate banner image and text blurb must be selected. Go to Wikivoyage:Destination of the month candidates/Banners to start that discussion.

Archive[edit]

Discussions for previously selected destinations are kept in the Archive.

Upcoming[edit]

Schedule[edit]

The following queue should contain about the next few months' worth of upcoming destinations. Note that new DotMs are rotated in on the 1st of each month, OtBPs on the 11th and travel topics on the 21st.

Month DotM OtBP FTT
April 2024 Addis Ababa – pending fixes and stronger consensus to support Hagi Volcanoes
May 2024 Tirana – pending fixes and stronger consensus to support Bethlehem (Pennsylvania) – pending fixes and stronger consensus to support E8 through Finland and Norway - pending stronger consensus to support
June 2024 Bonn – pending fixes and stronger consensus to support North West River – pending stronger consensus to support Land Art Trail on Mount Učka - pending stronger consensus to support
July 2024 Glacier National Park (Montana) – pending minor fixes and stronger consensus to support Mount Buller – pending stronger consensus to support Right to access in the Nordic countries
August 2024 Windsor (Ontario) – pending fixes and stronger consensus to support Ath – pending fixes and stronger consensus to support Voyages of James Cook – pending fixes and stronger consensus to support
September 2024 Košice – pending stronger consensus to support Minot – pending fixes and stronger consensus to support Flight baggage - pending fixes and stronger consensus to support

Try to avoid two overlapping or back-to-back features from the same country, as well as long streaks of features from the same continent. It is customary to wait 24 months between articles from the same or nearby cities.

The schedule is not cast in stone. However, any change made to the schedule should have a compelling reason behind it, and should be effected as far in advance as possible of the article's scheduled term on the Main Page. In particular, unless absolutely necessary, we discourage nominee articles from being slushed or rescheduled after banners have been made for them, which usually happens 2–3 months before being featured.

Whenever an article becomes a current feature, it should be removed from the list, the discussion archived, and (when changing out Featured Travel Topics) a new month added to the end of the queue.

Next changes[edit]

Decisions regarding which images to use as the banners are made at Wikivoyage:Destination of the month candidates/Banners.

The section below provides an opportunity to see what the upcoming featured articles will look like on the Main Page using the banners that are currently most popular on the above page.




Updating[edit]

On the date of the scheduled change, the DotM, OtBP, or FTT should be changed as close to midnight UTC as possible. This can only be done by administrators. When the featured page is changed, please follow the following procedures to do so and archive content to the appropriate pages. At each stage, please double-check that you are correctly moving content. Several steps involves copy pasting of the file names of the Main Page banners – former, current, and next – so it can be useful to open those in tabs first.

  1. Update the featured articles on the main page by replacing the current 'banner' template section with those of the appropriate banner for the new DotM/OtBP/FTT found in the Next change section above.
  2. Update the Photo credits page with the banner's original image, title and attribution.
  3. Add the former featured article to the appropriate archive page: Previous Destinations of the month, Previously Off the beaten path, or Previous Featured travel topics.
  4. Remove Template:Featurenomination from newly featured article.
  5. For the former featured article, add the appropriate parameter to the pagebanner template (directly after the image filename) to label the page as having been featured previously.
    • For former DotMs, add: |dotm=yes
    • For former OtBPs, add: |otbp=yes
    • For former FTTs, add: |ftt=yes
  6. Archive the newly featured article's nomination. Simply cut-and-paste the nomination section of the newly featured article from this page to Wikivoyage:Destination of the month candidates/Archive.
  7. Update the Next change section above by adding the banner from the discussion page. View the table in the Schedule section above to determine what next month's change will be, then update the image and blurb in the "Next change" section with that found in the upcoming featured article's nomination.
  8. In the schedule, use <s> and </s> to strikethrough the newly featured article. Remove the row from the table if the newly featured article is the FTT.
  9. Archive the newly featured article's banner by cutting-and-pasting all banner suggestions and the associated discussion into Wikivoyage:Destination of the month candidates/Banners/Archive.

Nominations for Destination of the Month[edit]

Tirana[edit]

Place: Tirana
Blurb: Albania's capital is colourful and rapidly modernizing, with cosy cafés and bustling nightlife. (should not exceed ~145 characters)
Article status: Guide (must be guide or above).
Time to feature: Spring or autumn for weather. Not sure about public events.
Nominated by: Yvwv (talk) 16:02, 28 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Comment: The Balkans are under-featured. Tirana is in a phase of modernization; well-functioning but still very affordable.

Nomination

Bonn[edit]

Place: Bonn
Blurb: Founded by the Romans, the former West German capital was also the home of Beethoven and its lively streets has given it the nickname "Italy's most northern city ". (should not exceed ~145 characters)
Article status: Guide (must be guide or above).
Time to feature: May-Sep weather-wise
Nominated by: Ypsilon (talk)
Comment: For the most part a good looking article that has been on my radar for years, but there has always been some other article from Germany nominated. The article has been worked on by a user in the last years, and the first 2/3 of the article does look good. However many Eat listings need descriptions, and some Drink listings need coordinates.

Nomination

Glacier National Park (Montana)[edit]

Place: Glacier National Park
Blurb: Gorgeous mountain views, an interesting geological history and almost unchanged ecosystems with good chances to encounter wildlife from grizzlies to mountain goats - what more could an outdoor enthusiast ask for? (should not exceed ~145 characters)
Article status: Guide (must be guide or above).
Time to feature: Summer
Nominated by: Ypsilon (talk) 19:37, 29 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Comment: We've featured a lot of European DotMs this summer, and that is at least partially because we didn't run any DotM from the other big Northern summer region - North America. So for next summer, here comes another article I've been looking at for quite a while. Many coordinates are missing, but other than that the article looks complete.

Nomination

Windsor (Ontario)[edit]

Place: Windsor (Ontario)
Blurb: Much more than just "South Detroit", the multicultural southernmost city of Canada features many outdoor activities, and a rich culture life (should not exceed ~145 characters)
Article status: Guide (must be guide or above).
Time to feature: May-Sep, "The late summer is the best time to visit the city"
Nominated by: Ypsilon (talk) 18:41, 14 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Comment: A combination we haven't had for a while is a large North American city featured during the summer. According to the article history, the article has been edited frequently in 2023, still it could be useful to go through the listings and check that everything listed is still in business/operational a couple of months before we feature it. Some listings also have no descriptions at all, especially in the Cope section.

Nomination

Košice[edit]

Place: Košice
Blurb: Slovakia's second city is a bit off the tourist radar, still with a great deal of historical sites, scenic outdoors and interesting events to enjoy (should not exceed ~145 characters)
Article status: Guide (must be guide or above).
Time to feature: May-Sep
Nominated by: Ypsilon (talk) 18:41, 14 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Comment: This would be our first ever Slovakian feature. It's translated from a Star article in French WV which is why the article is extensive and tidy. While many listings have an older date, I did run everything through Google Maps when translating (it's pointless translating outdated stuff) so they are up to date as of January 2023. However, as this would go on the Main Page probably in September 2024 it's closer to two than one year after the translation, so listings could be checked again for up-to-date-ness a little before we run it.

Nomination

Yerevan[edit]

Place: Yerevan
Blurb: Cascades, fountains and grand buildings await you in the Armenian capital (should not exceed ~145 characters)
Article status: Guide (must be guide or above).
Time to feature: Apr-May, Sep-Oct. October for Yerevan Birthday?
Nominated by: Ypsilon (talk) 18:56, 1 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Comment: I recently upgraded the status to guide (somehow I remember it already was at guide status at some point, maybe it's another article downgraded for no apparent reason?) as it's really extensive. Sometime closer to when it's featured we need to check that places we've listed still exist, and that prices aren't too much off. Part of the lead section could be moved to Understand.

Nomination

Perth[edit]

Place: Perth
Blurb: Maybe the most isolated world city still has a cosmopolitan vibe and features beaches, wineries and as well as cute quokkas on Rottnest Island (should not exceed ~145 characters)
Article status: Guide (must be guide or above).
Time to feature: Spring or autumn
Nominated by: Ypsilon (talk) 18:56, 1 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Comment: It's been a while since our last WA feature, so why not head to the by far largest city there? Most parts of the articles look OK but See would need to be expanded, some sections could use photos and it wouldn't hurt to check through the listings in the districts. I'd imagine the article would be featured in November or so, so there's no rush.

Nomination
I haven't had the chance to properly read through the article, but it might be a good idea to solicit the opinion of @Graham87:, who has previously lived in Perth. --SHB2000 (talk | contribs | meta) 09:37, 2 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I'd prefer not to deal with this, honestly, unless there are very specific questions that require local input. I don't know Perth that well from the average traveller's perspective, especially these days. Graham87 (talk) 11:59, 2 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
That's fair enough. --SHB2000 (talk | contribs | meta) 08:37, 3 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
One other thing I noticed is that the static maps look horrendous (no offense, sorry). I can't tell which goes where, with several major freeways like the Tonkin Hwy missing. I can't do much since I've never been to Perth, though. --SHB2000 (talk | contribs | meta) 03:39, 4 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Nominations for Off the Beaten Path[edit]

Bethlehem (Pennsylvania)[edit]

Place: Bethlehem (Pennsylvania)
Blurb: Named after lyrics in Christmas carols, the town that once was a main steel producer now has a lot of industrial heritage and festivals. (should not exceed ~145 characters)
Article status: Guide (must be guide or above).
Time to feature: Apr-Oct probably
Nominated by: Ypsilon (talk) 21:03, 21 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Comment: We have so many guide articles from the U.S., so let's just nominate one more. Keystone18 worked extensively on the article a few months ago so it should be up to date.

Nomination

North West River[edit]

Place: North West River
Blurb: Visit Central Labrador's oldest European settlement and the northeasternmost town on the North American road network for some lakeside scenery and to learn about the culture of the Innu, Inuit, Metis and the European settlers of Labrador. (should not exceed ~145 characters)
Article status: Guide (must be guide or above).
Time to feature: Northern summer for weather
Nominated by: SHB2000 (talk | contribs | meta) 10:07, 17 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Comment: I realise this is my third nomination of the day, but here's a article from Atlantic Canada for next summer. I started it today, branching it off Happy Valley-Goose Bay (which was on my radar), and have managed to get it to guide status, though it will need some updates closer to its feature. Labrador has also been historically underfeatured, and we've never had an individual settlement from N&L featured.

Nomination

Mount Buller[edit]

Place: Mount Buller
Blurb: One of Victoria's prime ski resorts holds an alpine charm: it's where snowy peaks meet a wide variety of ski slopes, and is just a 3–4-hour drive from Melbourne. (should not exceed ~145 characters)
Article status: Guide (must be guide or above).
Time to feature: Southern winter for the ski season
Nominated by: SHB2000 (talk | contribs | meta) 10:17, 7 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Comment: We've never featured a ski resort from the Southern Hemisphere, but this article received a fresh rewrite from JML1148. This region of Australia has only ever had one feature before (Mount Kosciuszko summit trails), but I guess there are only so many places in the Australian Alps.

Nomination
I've replaced the image with c:File:Mt Buller village Stevage.jpg as suggested – it's only a placeholder image, though – we choose different images for banners closer to when an article is scheduled to be featured (roughly 2–3 months). Please keep working on it – nominations usually sit here for many months and articles don't need to be perfect at the time of nomination (also hence my speedy nomination). --SHB2000 (talk | contribs | meta) 10:30, 7 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Ath[edit]

Place: Ath
Blurb: Built around a medieval dungeon, buildings from many eras and styles can be seen in Ath. (should not exceed ~145 characters)
Article status: Guide (must be guide or above).
Time to feature: May-Sep. The Ducasse d'Ath festival takes place in late August
Nominated by: Ypsilon (talk) 19:37, 29 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Comment: Even if there are several European DotMs and FTTs nominated for next summer, we have no OtBP candidate from Europe. How about featuring one of the articles I translated a few months ago, Ath would be the first Belgian OtBP? Yes, the lastedit dates in the article are from earlier years, but just because I use the wikicode editor and was too lazy to change those one by one. All listings that are there are up to date as of February 2023.

Nomination

Minot[edit]

Place: Minot
Blurb: This air force and rail town is also - at least heritage-wise - a piece of Scandinavia on the Great Plains. (should not exceed ~145 characters)
Article status: Guide (must be guide or above).
Time to feature: May-Sep (Sep for the Norwegian Autumn Festival in early October)
Nominated by: Ypsilon (talk) 18:41, 14 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Comment: A tidy article, however many coordinates are missing, there's room for a couple more images, and this article too needs to be checked for up-to-date-ness a bit before featuring.

Nomination

New England National Park[edit]

Place: New England National Park
Blurb: Visit one of the world's best preserved Gondwana Rainforests in New South Wales with many of New England National Park's hiking trails showcasing exactly that. (should not exceed ~145 characters)
Article status: Guide (must be guide or above).
Time to feature: Southern winter (ideally), though spring and autumn also work.
Nominated by: SHB2000 (talk | contribs | meta) 06:02, 29 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Comment: We have 25 Australian guide park articles – let's feature another one of them.

Nomination

La Tremblade[edit]

Place: La Tremblade
Blurb: Do you like surfing and oysters? Then, then this Charente-Maritime town facing the Atlantic definitely is for you! (should not exceed ~145 characters)
Article status: Guide (must be guide or above).
Time to feature: Apr-Oct, mid-summer might be quite hot though
Nominated by: Ypsilon (talk) 18:56, 1 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Comment: Translated from a Star article on French WV about year ago, so it should be fairly up to date despite what the timestamps say.

Nomination

Presidente Prudente[edit]

Place: Presidente Prudente
Blurb: Named after a president, this regional town has plenty of green spaces and interesting events around the year (should not exceed ~145 characters)
Article status: Guide (must be guide or above).
Time to feature: Spring or autumn probably
Nominated by: Ypsilon (talk) 18:56, 1 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Comment: We've never featured anything from Brazil as OtBP, so let's fix that. Speaking of fixing, there are some minor things to fix in the article. It's always nice with photos, but they need to be spread out more evenly and possibly some of them deleted. Some listings, especially in Drink, lack descriptions. Luckily there are the websites of the places listed, so it should be easy to get a picture of the place and write a short description. Finally the long list of Wi-Fi hotspots could perhaps be deleted.

Nomination

Yarrangobilly Caves[edit]

Place: Yarrangobilly Caves
Blurb: Nestled deep in Australia's Snowy Mountains, Yarrangobilly features not just caves, but thermal pools and great hikes as well. (should not exceed ~145 characters)
Article status: Guide (must be guide or above).
Time to feature: Any time
Nominated by: Jpatokal (talk) 00:18, 3 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Comment: It's been several years since we had an Australian OTBP, and both the caves and the pool are nice all year round. I intentionally chose a non-cave pic to give a better feel for the area, but open to alternatives.

Nomination
  • Almost – as the person who started and wrote much of the article, thanks for the nomination! I might add some geolines to it (am familiar with the trails), but I can't see anything much missing from when I was there. --SHB2000 (talk | contribs | meta) 07:29, 3 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Nominations for Featured travel topic[edit]

E8 through Finland and Norway[edit]

Place: Destination
Blurb: From Turku to Tromsø, European route E8 passes through various types of Finnish and Norwegian landscapes. (should not exceed ~145 characters)
Article status: Guide (must be guide or above).
Time to feature: May to June for the Midnight Sun, or April to August
Nominated by: SHB2000 (talk | contribs | meta.wikimedia) 10:22, 20 October 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Comment: We don't feature itineraries that much, and this seems a good candidate for sometime next year.

Nomination
  • Comment: We hopefully have the Archipelago Trail in May–June, and if this is to be featured in (Nordic) summer, to avoid darkness and icy roads, I think it comes too close. Perhaps 2022 2023? If for some reason there are problems with the Archipelago Trail this could of course be a backup. –LPfi (talk) 10:56, 20 October 2021 (UTC)[reply]
I introduced the guideline that a nomination should be intended to feature within the coming 12 months. This is more a requirement for quality, than for available spots. We should preferrably have a backlog of nominated high-quality articles, so we can afford to choose the most suitable article, with regard to factors such as climate, holidays, public events and safety. /Yvwv (talk) 15:03, 26 October 2021 (UTC)[reply]
May to June would be a great time to feature, for the Midnight Sun. That would make us wait until 2023, unless we run E8 instead of the Archipelago Trail. /Yvwv (talk) 21:13, 26 October 2021 (UTC)[reply]
I'd prefer to keep this until 2023, since the Archipelago Trail is more developed than this one. SHB2000 (talk | contribs | meta.wikimedia) 06:56, 14 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]
I agree, but I take the opportunity to ask: what should be done to improve this article, except developing the listed articles, and perhaps doing some more research on the bus and bike options? –LPfi (talk) 09:37, 15 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]
In my opinion, nothing major needs to be done, at least from what I've noticed (more specific to this article), but maybe an infobox or two would be nice, but we've plenty of guide and star articles without them. SHB2000 (talk | contribs | meta.wikimedia) 09:59, 15 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]
For May-June 2023 we can also consider Swedish Empire, during the 500th anniversary of Sweden's independence. That article also has several destinations in Finland. /Yvwv (talk) 15:52, 16 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Yes. This road isn't going to disappear in the near future, it can be featured any year. If we get somebody writing about the Ostrobothnian destinations before that, it'd be a big bonus. I know them only superficially. –LPfi (talk) 16:39, 16 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support. The article is great overall, though it should be proofread by a native English speaker for better flow in the language. /Yvwv (talk) 17:39, 22 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support, although I'd like more eyes on the article. I notice that the first empty slot is June 2023, which would be ideal. Of the linked places along the route and suggested sidetrips, it seems most are usable and several guides, half a dozen are redlinks and half a dozen outlines. I don't think a traveller needs to stop at destinations without usable articles. The biking option might need to be checked at some point, I just followed the cycleways and roads on the map and tried to judge their usability – but there is an Eurovelo route more or less along this itinerary. –LPfi (talk) 15:26, 3 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]
    If the Swedish Empire is featured in May, this should probably be postponed. Comments on how to improve it are welcome. –LPfi (talk) 07:40, 10 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Land Art Trail on Mount Učka[edit]

Place: Land Art Trail on Mount Učka
Blurb: A mountain at the Adriatic Sea has become an outdoor art gallery. (should not exceed ~145 characters)
Article status: Guide (must be guide or above).
Time to feature: Weather is probably best in May-June or September-October
Nominated by: Yvwv (talk) 16:49, 5 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Comment: We have had very few features from the Balkans, and none from Croatia. Outdoor attractions can be more compatible with the pandemic.

Nomination
Scheduled provisionally in Oct/Nov 2022. /Yvwv (talk) 21:31, 21 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support as one of our quirkier and well-planned itinerary articles. I noticed this article some time ago and remember it being well-written and organized. --Comment by Selfie City (talk) (contributions) 00:15, 2 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]
  • Comment: I didn't feel up to reading all the way through the article, but am I the only one who finds the "Understand" section overly preachy? I did edit it somewhat - the use of "man" and male pronouns for humanity is very old-fashioned and kind of jarring, at least for many Americans - but just how much do we need to push an idea of how to experience that trail? My feeling is that we definitely should state what the author's intention is, but we can then let people experience it however they do and go on to practical descriptions and advice on how to get from Point A to Point B, etc. I'll try posting a briefer alternative version of that section on the article's talk page later. Ikan Kekek (talk) 11:08, 3 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Done. Ikan Kekek (talk) 11:20, 3 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Also, having just recently discussed about images in Talk:Canadian national parks, are the galleries a violation of the image policy? Per Wikivoyage:Image policy#Montages and galleries, "should only be considered for showing multiple examples of a specific topic (for example, in describing flora and fauna or cuisine – but not attractions). Image galleries should not be used solely as a way to include a large number of different pictures in a destination article". This isn't a destination article, but it is depicting attractions. SHB2000 (talk | contribs | meta.wikimedia) 08:08, 19 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]
I'd say the composite image at the top definitely violates the prohibition against montages and should be removed. Some of the galleries, such as the one that shows two views of the same spiral geograph, are not needed. Most of the rest seem OK to me, since this is not a destination article, as you said, but an itinerary in which it may be necessary to recognize every artwork. The Sentinel picture is problematic per WV:Image policy#People in photos, though. I'm not sure we should do anything about that. "Land Art Trail on Mt. Učka in winter" doesn't need a gallery; one image could do it. Ikan Kekek (talk) 20:09, 19 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Okay, anyway we have about 7 months left to fix this up so nothing urgent, but we can't feature an article that blatantly violates WV:IP though. SHB2000 (talk | contribs | meta.wikimedia) 00:00, 28 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]
I made a few edits in the last few days, but we should make decisions about whether it's appropriate for this article to violate Wikivoyage:Image policy#Minimal use of images. I think that the density of images and the galleries still violate those guidelines, and while that might be OK as an exception, featuring this article carries strong risks that readers will believe this is exemplary in that respect and copy it in ordinary destination articles. Are the descriptions of the artworks clear enough that we can reduce the number of images to a more limited selection that excludes some of the works, eliminating the galleries with the possible exception of "Signposts and markings on the Land Art Trail" and creating 3 times more space on the right margin between most images, as we would be likely to do in any other article? Ikan Kekek (talk) 20:36, 28 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Yeah, we should take extra care that featured articles as many new users look up to them to see how they're meant to be formatted and usually think that format is okay. SHB2000 (talk | contribs | meta.wikimedia) 22:23, 28 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]
I'd assume the trail markings are enough to find the artworks, and they seem to be named on the map, so I think the images are needed more for telling the reader what to expect than for use on the trail. For that it is enough to have examples, and perhaps a few that give examples on how you can "use" the artwork. –LPfi (talk) 10:00, 29 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]
It sounds like you guys are agreeable with removing the rest of the galleries and having only single thumbnails; is that correct? If so, let's make the changes. Ikan Kekek (talk) 08:42, 4 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Yes, go ahead. SHB2000 (talk | contribs | meta.wikimedia) 22:50, 7 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]
I just removed the remainder of the galleries, other than the one with markings and signposts, which might be OK. The article still might violate Wikivoyage:Image policy#Minimal use of images, though. What do you all think? Should we delete half the remaining images? Ikan Kekek (talk) 06:18, 28 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]
There are still way too many images and I feel very skeptical of featuring an article that's a blatant violation of a simple Wikivoyage policy. Leaving the images may also encourage new editors to well, add a whole slew of galleries because a featured article contained them. Feel free to delete half the remaining images. SHB2000 (talk | contribs | meta.wikimedia) 23:21, 28 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]
How is it now? Ikan Kekek (talk) 02:24, 29 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Looking much better! However, I think the signposts/markings gallery should also go too. SHB2000 (talk | contribs | meta.wikimedia) 02:25, 29 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Let's talk about that. From Wikivoyage:Image policy: "Image galleries are discouraged, and should only be considered for showing multiple examples of a specific topic (for example, in describing flora and fauna or cuisine – but not attractions)." How does that apply to signposts/markings? Ikan Kekek (talk) 02:40, 29 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]
I thought the reason why we discouraged such galleries was because these chew up data and are slow to load, especially in places with poor reception. The reason why I'm okay with these in cuisine articles is because nobody prints these out, and many will read these articles before they're going to that destination (e.g. if I'm going to say Franconia, I would read Franconian cuisine before leaving to Franconia, but I wouldn't print it out, nor would I want to read it in Franconia)
Also, from experience last Saturday (18 June), just the map in Telangana took at least 10 seconds to load while I was on the road with poor 4G signal. If that one image took so long to load, then how long do you think it'll take for the gallery to load? SHB2000 (talk | contribs | meta.wikimedia) 03:09, 29 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]
I was thinking of it as a matter of style, and I see your point. So maybe select 1 or 2 of the best images from that bunch to use as thumbnails, possibly deleting another one in the process. Ikan Kekek (talk) 03:24, 29 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]
On hold until issues are settled. /Yvwv (talk) 09:39, 30 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Slush? This nomination has quietly been sitting since June. The last remaining gallery issue will likely remain unsolved as the reasons for keeping the gallery equal the reasons for removing it. SHB2000 (talk | contribs | meta) 07:08, 4 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]
I feel like the number of images are OK now. However, I would not object to someone selecting one or two photos from that gallery and deleting the gallery, and I don't think anyone else will object. Ikan Kekek (talk) 22:27, 4 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]
I removed the gallery and kept two images. With my browser window width (which seems to be the minimum for the pagebanner menu to work), there is now one to three images per screenful, likewise with Vector-2022 (the to-be (?) default skin) and maximised window. With maximised window and Monobook, there are still a bit too many images at the start of Walk, but I don't think that's a major issue. –LPfi (talk) 09:46, 5 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]
I moved one image up for slightly better spacing. What are people thinking of this article now; should we run it? Ikan Kekek (talk) 16:19, 5 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Churches in Antarctica[edit]

Place: Churches in Antarctica
Blurb: While you won't be able to visit all Antarctic churches at once, the few churches on the frozen continent highlight how Christianity has truly reached every corner of the globe. (should not exceed ~145 characters)
Article status: Guide (must be guide or above).
Time to feature: sometime during the summer, between October and February.
Nominated by: SHB2000 (talk | contribs | meta) 10:43, 2 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Comment: Although I said I'll wait a bit before nominating this, I'll be out next week and there's no harm in nominating this early.

As to the article itself, I realise this is a bit of a niche topic and no traveller visits Antarctica for its churches (unless they're a part of a maintenance crew or something alike) and also somewhat overgeneralised, Wikivoyage attracts many armchair travellers and thanks to the excellent work of Grahamsands, this is a good armchair article, in my opinion.

Nomination
Comment: We have plenty of travel topics nominated, and the travel topics have potential for new articles, with itineraries, and thematic articles such as these. Shall we allow geographic travel topics to run as DoTM and OtBP? /Yvwv (talk) 14:38, 2 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]
If the alternative is to run a destination article that hasn't been updated since before the pandemic, I think such flexibility is preferable. Otherwise, probably not. Ikan Kekek (talk) 02:47, 20 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]
I'd be open to featuring this in Off the beaten path, because it doesn't get much more OtBP than this. Jpatokal (talk) 02:55, 20 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Voyages of James Cook[edit]

Place: Voyages of James Cook
Blurb: Follow the steps of one of the most famous British explorers around the world! (should not exceed ~145 characters)
Article status: Guide (must be guide or above).
Time to feature: Anytime
Nominated by: Ypsilon (talk) 19:46, 2 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Comment: We have several "Voyages of..." articles at guide status, so why not start nominating one of them for FTT?

Nomination
Comment: We tend to look for major anniversaries for historical articles. Cook's second voyage was made from 1772 to 1775, which is 250 years ago. Not sure whether there will be any public events to attend, however. /Yvwv (talk) 13:38, 3 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]
  • Put on hold? - This is a clean article with guide status, entirely written by established Wikivoyagers so I went ahead and nominated it for FTT some time ago. Now I'm scanning Commons for banner material for March's and April's featured articles, and looked more closely at the article to see which exact destinations the article is about. At that, I noticed that there are no POIs from New Zealand (see also Talk:Voyages of James Cook), and that part of the world is too important not to include. There are Mt Cook and the Cook strait but there must also be quite a few monuments of him, but the question is which of them are the most notable and should be included in the article? --Ypsilon (talk) 16:20, 31 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    I have added some NZ POIs and listings for the two replica Endeavour's which are afloat (UK and Australia). There are now three NZ listings - two are of the beaten track and one is a more central statue, but I am not sure if it is the most notable memorial. AlasdairW (talk) 22:46, 11 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Slush? The article is not good to go. It has no yes votes, and has not improved nearly 5 months past nomination. We should consider slushing. /Yvwv (talk) 16:32, 31 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Let's wait for a week or two, I just brought the issues to light and there's a good chance that we have editors familiar with Cook and NZ who can help. Ypsilon (talk) 16:41, 31 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support I think it is now in reasonable shape, although more could be done. We should also check that the places listed in the article are mentioned in the city articles which are linked in the listings. AlasdairW (talk) 23:21, 11 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Right to access in the Nordic countries[edit]

Place: Right to access in the Nordic countries
Blurb: There's a lot of nature to explore in the Nordic countries, and most of it for free (should not exceed ~145 characters)
Article status: Guide (must be guide or above).
Time to feature: Summer probably, though you can enjoy nature here around the year
Nominated by: Ypsilon (talk) 18:41, 14 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Comment: Yet another complete guide article I've thought about nominating for quite some time. We already have one Nordic FTT article next summer (E8 through Finland and Norway). But as there are no other Nordic articles (DotM/OtBPs) nominated and this is about nature while the other is about a road and towns, I think there's space for this one too. We ran the closely related Hiking in the Nordic countries in August 2015, so there will be about 9 years between them.

Nomination
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  • Support as nominator. Ypsilon (talk) 18:41, 14 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support Quite different from most travel topics we have. --SHB2000 (talk | contribs | meta) 02:44, 30 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support. I think the article covers most relevant issues and it may be eye-opening for people from countries where the tradition is different (such as England and the USA). However, I'd like to hear from travellers not familiar with the concept: is there something that should be clarified? –LPfi (talk) 08:59, 12 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    [edit conflict] The time slot in July is nice, as it's in the berry and mushroom season (which will continue through September) and also a common vacation time in Europe, with good hiking weather locally. –LPfi (talk) 09:30, 12 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    As an outsider, I've found this concept pretty easy to understand when I visited Norway a few years back (and should find it relatively easy when I visit Iceland and Finland next year), but that's also because it's a bit more lax here than it is in the UK or US and accidentally trespassing won't get you into much issues (unlike some places where you can legally be shot). --SHB2000 (talk | contribs | meta) 09:05, 12 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    (and as a side note, I so wish this concept applied everywhere instead of just the Nordics) --SHB2000 (talk | contribs | meta) 09:42, 12 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support. As Scotland has more recently introduced some broadly similar rights with the Outdoor Access Code about 20 years ago, I found the article easy to understand and got a good grip also on what is different. I would like to see some links to definitive advice on access - government websites or possibly walking clubs etc. It would also be good to know who is responsible for enforcing these rights - to who do I report the farmer shouting "get off my land!". AlasdairW (talk) 21:50, 12 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    There is no definite advice, as these right aren't codified in law (other than as a side effect of other legislation). Government websites, walking clubs etc. do give advice, but they are not "official sites/primary sources" on the issue, so whatever they say should instead be included in our article, to the extent we see it as important.
    For the same reason nobody is enforcing those rights. If a farmer tells you to get off some specific part of their land, you should comply, as they probably have good reason. On the other hand, if you don't and they threaten you, then you can take them to court for illegal threats, or they could take you to court for causing damage to their crop.
    It seems this aspect of the rights should be explained more clearly in the article. One thing that I see difficult to convey, is how well this works in practice, through nearly everybody's respect for the rights, and most people behaving. There is little reason for a landowner to patrol their forest in hunt of hikers. This can be seen in court cases being very rare – no hikers or berry pickers try to test the limits.
    LPfi (talk) 07:26, 13 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    Did this help? –LPfi (talk) 09:37, 13 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    Thanks that helps. The question on enforcement came because the Scottish code has been challenged by landowners, although the traditional access that it was codifying rarely was. As this is a topic touching on legal areas, I think we should either have a strong disclaimer in the lede ("consult a lawyer for advice"), or link to other sites which give similar advice. For example, these tourist office pages appear to support what we are saying: Visit Sweden, Visit Norway and Visit Finland. This helps to protect WV and editors from being sued if something is wrong. It also helps readers unfamiliar with the ideas to see them expressed in different words elsewhere. AlasdairW (talk) 22:12, 13 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support. This is an excellent travel topic! Excellent to see support for this nomination from locals as well. --Comment by Selfie City (talk) (contributions) 16:39, 13 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Flight baggage[edit]

Place: Flight baggage
Blurb: There are many things to take into consideration when packing for a flight - check out our guide for useful advice! (should not exceed ~145 characters)
Article status: Guide (must be guide or above).
Time to feature: Anytime
Nominated by: Ypsilon (talk) 18:41, 14 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Comment: A look at Previous Featured travel topics reveals we don't very often run articles that aren't bound to a specific geographical location. But here's one. I think everything relevant is included.

Nomination

Volcanoes[edit]

Place: Topic
Blurb: Found worldwide, both a hazard and an attraction for travellers. (should not exceed ~145 characters)
Article status: Guide (must be guide or above).
Time to feature: Any time
Nominated by: Pashley (talk) 15:26, 20 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Comment: Several people have been working on this & it now seems up to scratch.

Nomination
Well, I guess interested readers will also check out the destination article for information about visiting the volcano of choice and what to expect before going there. So I could as well support the article. --Ypsilon (talk) 04:50, 3 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Ohlone Wilderness Trail[edit]

Place: Ohlone Wilderness Trail
Blurb: The wilderness outside San Francisco offers some serious hiking with beautiful views (should not exceed ~145 characters)
Article status: Guide (must be guide or above).
Time to feature: Spring or fall per Ohlone Wilderness Trail#Climate
Nominated by: Ypsilon (talk) 15:46, 27 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Comment: ...and yet another topic I've been thinking about nominating for quite some time. If there's something important missing, I think SelfieCity who's written most of the article can add it.

Nomination
Actually, I just discovered that the dynamic map already contains the trail, it appears on the dynamic map when you open its menu (in the upper right corner) and tick the "Hiking" box. Is there some way to have it displayed on the map by default, that'd probably be faster than drawing/coding the trail from scratch? --Ypsilon (talk) 10:54, 18 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • My understanding is that geolines have never been a requirement for featuring. However, I agree that they make hiking itinerary articles better, so I have connected the relevant Wikidata item with OpenStreetMap and added a mapshape template to the article. Assuming I've done it correctly, once everything has had a chance to sync we should hopefully see the geoline in the article's map. —Granger (talk · contribs) 15:33, 2 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    Thanks. That's more time-effective than drawing it from scratch and hosting it locally. --SHB2000 (talk | contribs | meta) 07:07, 3 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • I would want some more information about what you can expect from the campsites and whether there are some facilities along the route. If this is clear for locals, the info should go into some hiking/park travel topic, and that article should be referenced for the info. –LPfi (talk) 20:10, 2 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    I agree more information is needed about the campsites. Do they have potable water? Non-potable water? Toilets of any kind? Are campfires allowed? If so, are there permanent firepits, and is there a feasible way to obtain firewood? Which ones require reservations, and how can they be reserved? Maybe SelfieCity can help clarify. —Granger (talk · contribs) 04:44, 3 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Western food in Asia[edit]

Place: Western food in Asia
Blurb: What's a Maharaja Mac, Shanghai-style borscht or "soy sauce Western food"? Check out this article for an unusual culinary tour around Asia! (should not exceed ~145 characters)
Article status: Guide (must be guide or above).
Time to feature: Any
Nominated by: Ypsilon (talk) 18:56, 1 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Comment: I guess it's good to run as it is, though if there's something important missing, feel free to add it.

Nomination

Diving the Cape Peninsula and False Bay/MV Aster[edit]

Place: Diving the Cape Peninsula and False Bay/MV Aster
Blurb: The M.V. Aster was scuttled in 1997 the Hout Bay of the Cape Peninsula near Cape Town, as a diver-friendly artificial reef. (should not exceed ~145 characters)
Article status: Star (must be guide or above).
Time to feature: Southern summer: Late 2024 or early 2025
Nominated by: Yvwv (talk) 12:01, 4 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Comment: We have been featuring the best of Diving the Cape Peninsula and False Bay/Dive sites articles; the last one in early 2022, which is now past the recommended 24 month cooldown between neighboring destinations. These articles alleviate the shortage of features from Africa, without compromising on quality.

Nomination

Public baths in Japan[edit]

Place: Public baths in Japan
Blurb: Bathing Japanese style is a pleasure, and a visit to a Japanese hot spring should be on the agenda of every visitor. (should not exceed ~145 characters)
Article status: Guide (must be guide or above).
Time to feature: Any time of year, except maybe midsummer
Nominated by: Jpatokal (talk) 22:28, 4 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Comment: Needs a bit of cleanup but contentwise this is great. Not entirely convinced that "Toilets" belongs in here though.

Nomination