User talk:Jpatokal

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Jani pics uploaded by others[edit]

For form's sake, would you please affirm that these two photos are correctly attributed to you and display the correct license [1] [2]. --Peter Talk 06:37, 9 January 2013 (UTC)

Done, thanks for the heads-up! Jpatokal (talk) 09:41, 9 January 2013 (UTC)

Template:Web[edit]

I really wish you hadn't deleted Template:Web and all of its uses. Even if it had no current functionality, it was useful for defining text that shouldn't be printed. LtPowers (talk) 16:11, 16 January 2013 (UTC)

Sorry, may have jumped the gun a bit there, but the PediaPress engine doesn't recognize that template so it wouldn't actually do anything with the new book creator. Jpatokal (talk) 00:11, 17 January 2013 (UTC)
It would if we added the right category to the template. There's a category you can add to templates to make PediaPress not print them. LtPowers (talk) 15:43, 18 January 2013 (UTC)
Most uses of the template should no longer be necessary, as PediaPress's engine can (AFAIK) automatically delink references outside a collection, which is the "right" thing to do in the first place. Jpatokal (talk) 05:25, 22 January 2013 (UTC)
I'm not clear on what you mean by "references outside a collection". But your point is taken; perhaps there's not much outside of some templates that we should actually be hiding in print. LtPowers (talk) 19:54, 22 January 2013 (UTC)
So if eg. the Singapore guide links to Malaysia, and the Malaysia page is not in the printed book collection, the old WTP engine would have linked to "p. ???". PediaPress simply removes the link. Jpatokal (talk) 01:35, 23 January 2013 (UTC)
Okay... but I'm not aware of that actually being the case in Yucca. I had lots of links to other guides in the WDW articles that were just silently ignored by Yucca; I didn't have to add the Web template. LtPowers (talk) 15:47, 23 January 2013 (UTC)

Offline reader Expedition[edit]

I beg to differ with your saying that Offline reader Expedition is obsolete.

Everybody has a smartphone, but hate roaming charges, so offline readers are more needed than ever.

EPUB and OxygenGuide do not solve everything. EPUB is too heavy to open on a phone, and OxygenGuide is not a human-friendly format (that's why I just created the Wikivoyage offline app for Android, iPhone/etc versions badly needed)

The expedition is just beginning :-)

Cheers! Nicolas1981 (talk) 05:56, 18 January 2013 (UTC)

Long time no speak[edit]

Do you remember Canberra a few years back? http://en.wikivoyage.org/wiki/Swastika I think it needs squelching it keeps coming back cheers sats (talk) 02:38, 24 January 2013 (UTC) Inevercry zapped it but i suspect it needs a watch sats (talk) 02:46, 24 January 2013 (UTC)

Sure do, glad to see you here and that we have a "here" to be in! Looking forward to seeing what you can do to Indonesia, the archipelago's coverage needs some love. Jpatokal (talk) 03:14, 24 January 2013 (UTC)
hmm I think Tasmania also needs the same... oh well if it takes me 2 years to actually catch up on the web - maybe itll be another 2 years to fix the issues in the tassie and indonesia areas sats (talk) 03:20, 24 January 2013 (UTC)
sheesh - Tasmania has holes bigger than the dams!! sats (talk) 04:10, 24 January 2013 (UTC)

Ugly time format[edit]

Nowhere does it say those ugly and very minority-usage caps, shouting at readers, have to be used. So you've degraded the Melbourne article. Congratulations.

And 6:00 am –10:30 pm is now 6–10PM ... are you sure you want to reduce the hour range? Tony (talk) 06:10, 24 January 2013 (UTC)

Planet Wikimedia[edit]

Hi Jani. I know you have a blog [3] that occasionally makes posts about Wikivoyage and Wikimedia, so I thought it may be worth you taking a look at Planet Wikimedia (see meta:Planet Wikimedia). It seems to be a blog aggregator about various WM topics, and it'd be nice to have some Wikivoyage in there every now and again. You'd have to start tagging your posts with "wikimedia" though to separate it from the non-WMF stuff. Just something to think about :) JamesA >talk 12:13, 25 February 2013 (UTC)

Districts for Helsinki[edit]

Hi there! We're discussing if and how Helsinki could be split into districts. Come and have your say! Ypsilon (talk) 13:59, 26 May 2013 (UTC)

See, I'm here[edit]

Hi. See, I'm here. Just saying hello in response to your enquiry elsewhere. Nurg (talk) 10:57, 4 June 2013 (UTC)

Travel photography[edit]

I've expanded that article quite a bit recently. In fact, I suspect I have overdone it & gotten too wordy and detailed in places. It needs other opinions & you were the first one I thought of since I know you do photography and have edited that article in the past. Please have a look. Pashley (talk) 23:10, 11 August 2013 (UTC)

I am thinking that much of the detail might move to subpages, leaving a cleaner article up top, but haven't worked out details yet. Pashley (talk) 13:35, 15 August 2013 (UTC)
I have done some of that, see Talk:Travel_photography#Current_state. I'd still like your comments. Pashley (talk) 22:35, 8 October 2013 (UTC)
Bump. Pashley (talk) 12:18, 16 January 2014 (UTC)
Sorry for not responding, but to be honest, that article is way more knowledgeable than I am already -- doubt there's anything I can add or fix! Jpatokal (talk) 03:49, 28 January 2014 (UTC)

Category:Pages_with_broken_file_links[edit]

Hi Jani, i hope you are fine. I try to reduce the amount of files with broken links and two link to your user page. I don't want to change your archive or sandbox, so i just wanted to check if you need them or if you could alter them? Thanks, jan (talk) 13:06, 22 August 2013 (UTC)

Ta, should be done now. Jpatokal (talk) 01:58, 23 August 2013 (UTC)
Jani, i cleared that link as well https://en.wikivoyage.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Jpatokal/2009&action=history Hope that this is ok. Regards, jan (talk) 14:56, 20 September 2013 (UTC)

Nice to see you around![edit]

I somehow missed that you've been making the occasional contribution over the past month, but it's great to see you back. Hopefully the job at Google is going well and you'll have some time to re-join the circus here. -- Ryan • (talk) • 05:17, 5 November 2013 (UTC)

Thanks! My capacity for random travel edits seems to have increased since leaving Lonely Planet ;) Jpatokal (talk) 05:27, 5 November 2013 (UTC)
+ ϒpsilon (talk) 05:30, 5 November 2013 (UTC)

Other-subject WP links[edit]

Hello, Happy New Year, and please have a look at Talk:Kimono buying guide.

All the best,

Ikan Kekek (talk) 00:22, 31 December 2013 (UTC)

An important message about renaming users[edit]

Dear Jpatokal,

I am cross-posting this message to many places to make sure everyone who is a Wikimedia Foundation project bureaucrat receives a copy. If you are a bureaucrat on more than one wiki, you will receive this message on each wiki where you are a bureaucrat.

As you may have seen, work to perform the Wikimedia cluster-wide single-user login finalisation (SUL finalisation) is taking place. This may potentially effect your work as a local bureaucrat, so please read this message carefully.

Why is this happening? As currently stated at the global rename policy, a global account is a name linked to a single user across all Wikimedia wikis, with local accounts unified into a global collection. Previously, the only way to rename a unified user was to individually rename every local account. This was an extremely difficult and time-consuming task, both for stewards and for the users who had to initiate discussions with local bureaucrats (who perform local renames to date) on every wiki with available bureaucrats. The process took a very long time, since it's difficult to coordinate crosswiki renames among the projects and bureaucrats involved in individual projects.

The SUL finalisation will be taking place in stages, and one of the first stages will be to turn off Special:RenameUser locally. This needs to be done as soon as possible, on advice and input from Stewards and engineers for the project, so that no more accounts that are unified globally are broken by a local rename to usurp the global account name. Once this is done, the process of global name unification can begin. The date that has been chosen to turn off local renaming and shift over to entirely global renaming is 15 September 2014, or three weeks time from now. In place of local renames is a new tool, hosted on Meta, that allows for global renames on all wikis where the name is not registered will be deployed.

Your help is greatly needed during this process and going forward in the future if, as a bureaucrat, renaming users is something that you do or have an interest in participating in. The Wikimedia Stewards have set up, and are in charge of, a new community usergroup on Meta in order to share knowledge and work together on renaming accounts globally, called Global renamers. Stewards are in the process of creating documentation to help global renamers to get used to and learn more about global accounts and tools and Meta in general as well as the application format. As transparency is a valuable thing in our movement, the Stewards would like to have at least a brief public application period. If you are an experienced renamer as a local bureaucrat, the process of becoming a part of this group could take as little as 24 hours to complete. You, as a bureaucrat, should be able to apply for the global renamer right on Meta by the requests for global permissions page on 1 September, a week from now.

In the meantime please update your local page where users request renames to reflect this move to global renaming, and if there is a rename request and the user has edited more than one wiki with the name, please send them to the request page for a global rename.

Stewards greatly appreciate the trust local communities have in you and want to make this transition as easy as possible so that the two groups can start working together to ensure everyone has a unique login identity across Wikimedia projects. Completing this project will allow for long-desired universal tools like a global watchlist, global notifications and many, many more features to make work easier.

If you have any questions, comments or concerns about the SUL finalisation, read over the Help:Unified login page on Meta and leave a note on the talk page there, or on the talk page for global renamers. You can also contact me on my talk page on meta if you would like. I'm working as a bridge between Wikimedia Foundation Engineering and Product Development, Wikimedia Stewards, and you to assure that SUL finalisation goes as smoothly as possible; this is a community-driven process and I encourage you to work with the Stewards for our communities.

Thank you for your time. -- Keegan (WMF) talk 18:24, 25 August 2014 (UTC)

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Upload files, Upload Wizard?[edit]

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Hello! Sorry for writing in English. As you're an administrator here, please check the message I left on MediaWiki talk:Licenses and the village pump. Thanks, Nemo 19:22, 18 September 2014 (UTC)

Dewa Sanzan[edit]

From your experience, after starting at Gassan in the morning and hiking to Yudonosan (as memorably chronicled in J2J), is it viable to include visits to Dainichibo and/or Churenji on the same day before returning to Tsuruoka? Gorilla Jones (talk) 15:51, 23 May 2015 (UTC)

Hey! Good to hear from you. YMMV, but I was pretty shattered by the time I finished the hike (the downhill bits were pretty brutal) and certainly wasn't in any shape to explore more. But maybe you're in better shape than I was... Jpatokal (talk) 09:31, 24 May 2015 (UTC)
Probably not! Thanks. I am morbidly curious to see if they're still serving the same breakfasts at Saikan... Gorilla Jones (talk) 05:10, 25 May 2015 (UTC)