Talk:Turku riverside walk

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@LPfi: do you want me to make one for this? (examples can be seen at Quebec Route 389, Stuart Highway, Oodnadatta Track or Trans-Labrador Highway) SHB2000 (talk | contribs | meta.wikimedia) 10:32, 12 September 2021 (UTC)

@SHB2000: That would be awesome. There are a few alternatives suggested, but already the main one would be a great addition. The route may not be obvious on the map at all places (not necessarily clear what lines are pedestrian routes), but I suppose I could edit it afterwards if this concerns only a few places. The alternative routes by footpaths, by bike or just optional should probably be left out at the first stage (I suppose they'd be presented in different colours).

I'd like the starting leg to go through the castle park and passing over the railway near (an extension) to Nuottasaarenkatu, not along Linnankatu. After the Eerikinkatu lights (near the bridge by the cathedral) turn a little to the right to get to the riverside. Take the route closer to the river at Tuomaansilta (and most anywhere). Upstream from Halinen you should catch the "ulkoilureitti" to Komosten kummut. I am not sure which line to follow just after the grove. Entering the forest, after the bypass, I am not sure. I have taken the left route (I think there is a signpost), but turning right seems to be much shorter, avoiding the harness racing loop. I'll check next time whether it is as nice.

On the way back, you should follow the "ulkoilureitti" that starts close to the point where Vanha Ravattulantie becomes Ravattulanpolku, to the path through Virnamäki (I hope the right path can be seen from the marker).

I think the main route should end at Halinen. It may be late and you might want to take the bus home, and if you want to walk, you might want to go a more direct route rather than by the river, so ideally there would be two options.

The comments are from my looking at the WV OSM map. You might have to zoom in to see some of the paths and pedestrian passages (I think I used zoom=18 to see them).

–LPfi (talk) 11:35, 12 September 2021 (UTC)

Sure. I'll do it tomorrow since I don't concentrate properly at 22:10 and don't seem to put the points correctly when I'm not concentrating. SHB2000 (talk | contribs | meta.wikimedia) 12:11, 12 September 2021 (UTC)

On geojosn.io, it seems to be quite visible. To double check, could you quickly link a google maps of the route (since I don't want to get it wrong, and fixing the coords can be hard later. SHB2000 (talk | contribs | meta.wikimedia) 12:27, 12 September 2021 (UTC)

Something like this. SHB2000 (talk | contribs | meta.wikimedia) 12:28, 12 September 2021 (UTC)

@SHB2000: I don't want to use Google (and there is no ready map with the exact route that I know), so I now traced the route at geojson.io and saved the result at User:LPfi/Sandbox. There are a few places I am unsure about, as I don't remember what they look like in reality, and then there is the shortcut by the harness tracing loop (I chose the longer route, as I know it). It seems to me, though, that replacing a section of the file is easy – one just needs to find the right start and end rows, but that isn't too hard with a polyline with a mostly consistent general direction. –LPfi (talk) 14:03, 12 September 2021 (UTC)

I duplicated the copy and turned it into a map which you can see at User:SHB2000/sandbox/Turku river sandbox. Now all that needs to be done is the code and the map to be added, which I'll do right in a sec. SHB2000 (talk | contribs | meta.wikimedia) 14:05, 12 September 2021 (UTC)

@SHB2000: Oops, I thought I posted this long ago (with some now unnecessary questions). Thank you very much for this engagement; I haven't been doing this, so without it we wouldn't have the route map. –LPfi (talk) 19:39, 13 September 2021 (UTC)

Although I wished that there were better tutorials with json lines. They do take some time :) Now time to do some more json lines.... SHB2000 (talk | contribs | meta.wikimedia) 22:10, 13 September 2021 (UTC)

Distances

Moving the distances list to here, replacing it with a cut-down version in the article (LPfi (talk) 09:11, 14 September 2021 (UTC)):

[FIXME: Check what distances are relevant here and which ones could be moved to the route description. Alternatives need to be separated from legs on the same route.]

Mostly along the right bank:

• The ferry terminals to Turku Cathedral: 4 km. At this leg you can easily choose to walk any stretch
  • Terminal–Turku Castle–Forum Marinum–guest harbour–archipelago ferries–Teatterisilta–Auransita–Tuomiokirkkosilta (the bridge by the cathedral) and the cathedral and back: each roughly 500 m.
• Tuomiokirkkosilta to Koroinen along the right bank: 2 km. Turn back if you wish.
  • Tuomiokirkkosilta–Tuomaansilta: 400 + 400 m
  • Tuomaansilta–railway bridge: 250 m.
  • Railway bridge–Koroinen: 1 km.
• Koroinen to Halinen along the right bank: 1.2 km.
• Halinen to Ristimäki: 3 km.
  • Halinen–Komosten kummut: 1 km.
  • Komosten kummut to Ristimäki: 2 km.
• Ristimäki to Vanhalinna via the forest: 4.5 km.
  • Ristimäki to the suspension bridge: 2.7 km.
  • Suspension bridge–Vanhalinna: 1.8 km.
• Vanhalinna to Ristimäki crossing the river at the bypass: 3.5 km.
• Ristimäki to Halinen via Virnamäki: 3 km.

Mostly along the left bank:

• Guest harbour via Föri to Turku Cathedral: 2.5 km.
  • Guest harbour–Föri: 200 m.
  • Föri–Martinsilta: 500 m.
  • Martinsilta–Teatterisilta: 500 m.
  • Teatterisilta–Auransilta: 500 m.
  • Auransilta–Tuomionkirkkosilta: 500 m.
• Turku Cathedral via Piispankatu to Koroinen: 2.25 km.
  • Turku Cathedral–the right bank at Tuomaansilta: 1 km.
• Turku Cathedral to the railway bridge along the left bank: 1 km. A further 500 m to the Caribia bus stop.
• Turku Cathedral to Halinen along the left bank and on to Myllärintalo: 2.75 km

Toilets?

Cope[edit source] There are toilets at the cafés and museums, mostly locked in off hours. Upstream there may not be any toilets accessible by wheelchair. In the wood after the bridge over the Turku bypass you could help yourself.

Huh??? Highjumpermsu (talk) 17:08, 14 September 2021 (UTC)

@Highjumpermsu: What do you do when there are no toilets? More or less the same as what people did before toilets were invented, unless you can wait until you get home. Perhaps we should simply say there are no toilets there. Feel free to change the wording. –LPfi (talk) 20:57, 14 September 2021 (UTC)