Talk:Whitewater sports

VFD discussion

Whitewater Kayaking

Needs to be deleted, or redirected, or else renamed Whitewater kayaking ~ 61.91.191.8 08:55, 2 February 2007 (EST)

• Keep. This can make a nice travel topic, but the garbage needs to be removed, some real info needs to be added and it should be listed under Travel_topics#Travel_activities. I'll add some detail, lets see how the voting goes from there.
  • Friday afternoon, a week of work made me braindead. I missed the fact that Kayaking was spelled with a capital here. Have move the content to Whitewater kayaking and redirected Whitewater Kayaking to the new page.

• Keep - is now a valid redirect, and the page it redirects to has valid content. ~ 61.91.191.11 06:37, 4 February 2007 (EST)

• Delete - just spam related stuff.

• Keep. - This can be made useful. -- (WT-en) Sapphire 18:24, 18 February 2007 (EST)
• Keep. Pretty standard kind of redirect, and Whitewater kayaking is certainly a valid travel topic, if one where our nascent cooperation with WikiOutdoors should be taken into consideration. -- (WT-en) Bill-on-the-Hill 13:09, 19 February 2007 (EST)
• Either keep or preferably move the content to Travel activities and leave the old article as a redirect. We still don't have a standard for what is a valid travel article, so it's difficult to say whether something stays or goes. My preference would be that we move content into more general articles whenever possible, and only create new articles when the content becomes large and complex, similarly to how we handle museums or airports currently. -- (WT-en) Ryan 01:25, 7 March 2007 (EST)

Whitewater sports?

Is there a more generic name for kayaking, canoeing and rafting all combined? The places where you can do these are, after all, pretty much the same. (WT-en) Jpatokal 03:07, 30 April 2009 (EDT)

Support; definitely better name--and we'd better have a wider scope here until we have too much content to split. --(WT-en) DenisYurkin 17:56, 4 May 2009 (EDT)

Destinations

I wonder what the criteria for the selection of destinations are. We now have destinations where "rafting [...] is said to be quite good", rafting/kayaking/canoeing just mentioned or even not mentioned at all.

We probably should list at least articles about white water sports in some area and articles about areas especially noteworthy as white water sports destinations, but we should not list countries or regions on the bases that there are some white-water sports destinations in that area – there probably are in most countries, and there are zillions of individual white-water destinations.

Should we try to choose a few (5–9?) destinations on each continent, based on noteworthiness and amount and quality of information in the article in question? The rest would be found in the Do sections of relevant articles, depending on noteworthiness (lesser routes only in the destination article itself).

--LPfi (talk) 11:12, 23 January 2015 (UTC)

One more country was added to Europe. The section now had this content:

• Albania: Osumi Canyon, Black Drini, Vjosa River
• Croatia
• Finland
• Russia
• Turkey
• Slovenia
• Bosnia and Herzegovina

Osum was indeed mentioned in Berat: Osumi Canyon and the Wikipedia article says that it is navigable by (some?) whitewater craft. I added that info to the see listing.

Black Drini (Drini i Zi) and the Vjosa are mentioned in a few articles, but none of the mentions hints on whitewaters.

Slovenia seems to tout adventure sports, and the mentioned Triglav National Park indeed says that rafting is popular at the Soca River, but nothing more. Nothing makes me feel this is an outstanding whitewater destination. Russia#Whitewater rafting has a link to one company, nothing more. The rest of the country articles have nothing (Finland mentions canoeing, but tells nothing about it).

Bosnia and Herzegovina#Do has the only convincing description of whitewater possibilities. I am sure there are a lot of them in the other countries (I know some for Finland), but I think somebody with real experience or some knowledge of the field should add the bullets – after having shared some of their knowledge.

Thus, I am removing these all, except Bosnia and Herzegovina, which at least looks like an honest attempt to share information.

–LPfi (talk) 08:04, 17 April 2024 (UTC)

Jalcomulco

The Mexico section has a redlink to Jalcomulco, Veracruz – 'a good base camp for trips to the Pescados area of the Rio Antigua'. We need to add more information on that place somewhere. It is 29 km from the provincial capital Xalapa (according to w:Jalcomulco), so that would be one possibility; Coatepec is a tad closer by road. There seems to be a large park in the vicinity, which could have an article including the whitewater options. Jalcomulco and the neighbouring Apazapan have only a few thousand inhabitants each, so creating articles about them by themselves might not be warranted. At the moment Jalcomulco isn't mentioned anywhere on the site, but in this article. –LPfi (talk) 07:20, 22 July 2024 (UTC)

Tlapacoyan is not even redlinked from here, and also not mentioned elsewhere on the site. It seems to be a city of 60,000 inhabitants, so probably worth an article, especially if it is 'the best place for whitewater kayaking' in the province, which in itself has 'some of the world's most challenging whitewater rivers'. –LPfi (talk) 07:30, 22 July 2024 (UTC)