Template talk:Forecast/AU
Add topicLatest comment: 2 years ago by LPfi in topic Template for approval: Template:BOM
Template for approval: Template:BOM
[edit]Title. Works similar to Template:Forecast and you can see its usage here in Uluṟu-Kata Tjuṯa National Park#Climate or Mount Field National Park. --SHB2000 (talk | contribs | meta.wikimedia) 22:15, 25 February 2022 (UTC)
- Disapprove until it has a header (in the form "|+ Some appropriate header here" with possible other features like styling, etc.) for accessibility reasons. Once it has that, approve. I suggest something like "+Weather forecast for {{subst:PAGENAME}}" and if the pagename is wonky, it can be manually changed. Great work and attractive! —Justin (koavf)❤T☮C☺M☯ 00:02, 26 February 2022 (UTC)
- btw I should mentioned it only works for articles about Australia and the Australian Antarctic Territory. --SHB2000 (talk | contribs | meta.wikimedia) 08:05, 26 February 2022 (UTC)
- Do we want such templates for all countries with forecasts? If so, we'd fill the template namespace with such abbreviations. As the template seldom needs to be inserted spontaneously, I think there'd be no problem to have a longer name. –LPfi (talk) 08:13, 26 February 2022 (UTC)
- What about ForecastNOAA, ForecastBOM etc, or Forecast/NOAA, Forecast/BOM etc.? Or Forecast/US, Forecast/AU, etc. –LPfi (talk) 08:22, 26 February 2022 (UTC)
- A simple typing solution could be to have a country-code hack and then something simple, like Template:aufcast for Australia and Template:uafcast for Ukraine, etc. Fairly easy to type and remember but also pretty obscure. —Justin (koavf)❤T☮C☺M☯ 08:23, 26 February 2022 (UTC)
- Easy to remember is more important than easy to type. If you are inserting it in many articles you can copy and paste, or use AWB or similar – but I suppose it should be used only on regions and places like national parks, where a good forecast may be critical. –LPfi (talk) 08:38, 26 February 2022 (UTC)
- I can easily remember "au" = "Australia"; I had no idea that "BOM" had anything to do with Australia prior to this. —Justin (koavf)❤T☮C☺M☯ 08:55, 26 February 2022 (UTC)
- Yes. Few overseas travellers editing Australian articles would guess, when they see {{BOM}} in the wikitext. I first thought about the byte order mark, although you wouldn't need that in Wikivoyage articles. I think we should go for Forecast/AU & co. That wouldn't need changes if the bureau changes names or you get better forecasts from somewhere else (although parameter changes may be needed where it is used). If there are different agencies for one country, and you need to choose article by article, you can add a parameter for that. —The preceding comment was added by LPfi (talk • contribs)
- So renaming to Template:Forecast/AU? Also, I think Template:Forecast should also be renamed. A brand new user interested in a non-US related article might be disappointed to find out a template which its name makes one think it shows a seven day forecast only works on articles about the US. --SHB2000 (talk | contribs | meta.wikimedia) 10:41, 26 February 2022 (UTC)
- Yes indeed. The template is used on 67 pages, not too many to change manually, and we might replace it with a template doing something sensible (or nothing but adding a maintenance category) when no country is specified. –LPfi (talk) 10:49, 26 February 2022 (UTC)
- So renaming to Template:Forecast/AU? Also, I think Template:Forecast should also be renamed. A brand new user interested in a non-US related article might be disappointed to find out a template which its name makes one think it shows a seven day forecast only works on articles about the US. --SHB2000 (talk | contribs | meta.wikimedia) 10:41, 26 February 2022 (UTC)
- Yes. Few overseas travellers editing Australian articles would guess, when they see {{BOM}} in the wikitext. I first thought about the byte order mark, although you wouldn't need that in Wikivoyage articles. I think we should go for Forecast/AU & co. That wouldn't need changes if the bureau changes names or you get better forecasts from somewhere else (although parameter changes may be needed where it is used). If there are different agencies for one country, and you need to choose article by article, you can add a parameter for that. —The preceding comment was added by LPfi (talk • contribs)
- I can easily remember "au" = "Australia"; I had no idea that "BOM" had anything to do with Australia prior to this. —Justin (koavf)❤T☮C☺M☯ 08:55, 26 February 2022 (UTC)
- Easy to remember is more important than easy to type. If you are inserting it in many articles you can copy and paste, or use AWB or similar – but I suppose it should be used only on regions and places like national parks, where a good forecast may be critical. –LPfi (talk) 08:38, 26 February 2022 (UTC)
- Do we want such templates for all countries with forecasts? If so, we'd fill the template namespace with such abbreviations. As the template seldom needs to be inserted spontaneously, I think there'd be no problem to have a longer name. –LPfi (talk) 08:13, 26 February 2022 (UTC)