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Swept in from the pub

Ramadan

Ramadan is the 9th and holiest month in the Islamic calendar and lasts 29–30 days. Muslims fast every day for its duration and most restaurants will be closed until the fast breaks at dusk. Nothing (including water and cigarettes) is supposed to pass through the lips from dawn to sunset. Non-Muslims are exempt from this, but should still refrain from eating or drinking in public as this is considered very impolite. Working hours are decreased as well in the corporate world. Exact dates of Ramadan depend on local astronomical observations and may vary somewhat from country to country. Ramadan concludes with the festival of Eid al-Fitr, which may last several days, usually three in most countries.

  • 24 April – 23 May 2020 (1441 AH)
  • 13 April – 12 May 2021 (1442 AH)
  • 2 April – 1 May 2022 (1443 AH)
  • 23 March – 20 April 2023 (1444 AH)
  • 11 March – 9 April 2024 (1445 AH)

If you're planning to travel to LunarNewYeardates during Ramadan, consider reading Travelling during Ramadan.

Lunar New Year dates

The year of the Rat started on 4 Feb 2020 at 17:03, and the Lunar New Year was on 25 Jan 2020

  • The year of the Ox will begin on 3 Feb 2021 at 22:58, and the Lunar New Year will be on 12 Feb 2021
  • The year of the Tiger will begin on 4 Feb 2022 at 04:50, and the Lunar New Year will be on 1 Feb 2022
  • The year of the Rabbit will begin on 4 Feb 2022 at 10:42, and the Lunar New Year will be on 22 Jan 2023

Contrary to popular belief, the change of the zodiac does not occur on the first day of the Lunar New Year, but instead occurs on Li Chun (立春 lì chūn), the traditional Chinese start of spring.

I notice on the Malaysia article that the Ramadan dates are all up-to-date but those of Chinese New Year are not.

The Malaysia article has the dates in boxes derived from "ramadandates" and "CNYdates" in double curly brackets (i.e. {{}}, boxes reproduced here). A bit of searching tells me that several articles have the "ramadandates" link but that Malaysia is the only one with "CNYdates". The China article just has the dates listed as plain text (which were outdated but I've now updated). The Hong Kong and Taiwan articles don't list the dates.

From where do these links source their information? And is it possible for "CNYdates" or an equivalent to be updated and used in articles requiring the dates for the Chinese New Year?

(WT-en) Travelpleb 03:23, 2 May 2012 (EDT)

Template:ramadandates and Template:CNYdates - Go to town. --(WT-en) Inas 06:50, 2 May 2012 (EDT)
Thank you, that's wonderful. I'll go to Chinatown! (WT-en) Travelpleb 07:19, 2 May 2012 (EDT)
  • One more thing: these two templates aren't listed in the list of templates. Are these the only ones? Are they listed elsewhere? (WT-en) Travelpleb 11:05, 2 May 2012 (EDT)
    • I don't know if they're the only ones, but they don't appear to be listed elsewhere: [1] [2]. (WT-en) LtPowers 16:21, 2 May 2012 (EDT)
      • Is there some way to get them listed somewhere so that they stand more chance of being updated. The Ramadan dates seem to be taken care of, and maybe the CNY dates will too now that they're linked to several destinations rather than just Malaysia, but having them together somewhere may be worth considering. Any thoughts?(WT-en) Travelpleb 04:56, 3 May 2012 (EDT)
        • They should be listed at Project:Template index#Content insertion; anything else would be up to interested parties. (WT-en) LtPowers 10:10, 3 May 2012 (EDT)
          • Thanks for that. I've put them into Project:Template index#Content insertion but they look a bit silly. It would be great if someone who knows about tables would widen the boxes' appearance in the table on the template index page.(WT-en) Travelpleb 11:22, 3 May 2012 (EDT)
            • I wanted to update the lunar new year entry as it still shows the position obtaining during the year of the Rooter which ended on 15 Feb 2018. However, I was not at all able to do what was needed in spite of a number of attempts. Somebody should update this template to reflect the current position after the start of the year of the Dog on 16 Feb 2018. Thanks. Abul Bakhtiar (talk) 16:18, 27 February 2018 (UTC) Abul_Bakhtiar 27 February 2018

General info[edit]

Chinese, Korean, and Vietnamese dates coincide until at least 2020. Mongol dates diverge in 2017.

Information for culturally not Chinese celebrations in their own language (date listings more complete than in English):

Date formats[edit]

This template is used in a variety of countries that do not use US English, such as Brunei, Malaysia and Singapore.

Therefore, the dates used should conform with our Mos - specifically: wv:dates. --W. Frankemailtalk 14:47, 14 September 2013 (UTC)

Hi W. Frank, I was fixing up the China article and the festival section had many typos. I assumed (incorrectly) that this template also had the same typos, however now I know about TDF. Thanks for catching. --Andrewssi2 (talk) 14:52, 14 September 2013 (UTC)
Folks call me Frank (it's my rufname and Germans will always use that rather than "Werner" and that's why I have bolded it in my signature). Many of our MoS rules are the bastard children of long (and sometimes vituperative) wrangling, but I think it's generally best to follow them unless there is a very good reason not to. --W. Frankemailtalk 15:09, 14 September 2013 (UTC)

Change of zodiac[edit]

Just to point this out, the change of zodiac doesn't happen on the first day of Chinese New Year. It happens on Li Chun (立春, the traditional Chinese start of spring), which is usually on 3 or 4 Feb every year. Could the box be changed to reflect this? The dog2 (talk) 04:03, 4 February 2020 (UTC)

Can confirm that this is accurate. OhanaUnitedTalk page 04:27, 6 February 2020 (UTC)