Template talk:The Original Barnstar

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This file was nominated for deletion on 9 July 2013 but was kept. The deletion debate is here. Please consider that decision before you re-nominate it.

We've got our own barncompass so I think we don't need these barnstar templates anymore on this wiki. Template:The Original Barnstar, Template:The Random Acts of Kindness Barnstar, Template:The Editor's Barnstar, and Template:The Working Wikivoyager's Barnstar. --Saqib (talk) 16:15, 9 July 2013 (UTC)

• Delete. The only one that is in use is "the original," although it perhaps should not be per the experimental tag. Before its creation we always just used a thumb of the barnstar, plus a normal talk page comment. If we keep any of them, let's only keep the one that has seen any use. --Peter ^Talk 21:58, 9 July 2013 (UTC)
• Delete - We don't want to diverge from our own style, creativity and intuitiveness. However, maybe keep just the original barnstar as it is a classic. James A ▪ talk 08:02, 10 July 2013 (UTC)
• Delete - Even the original barnstar would just duplicate the purpose of the barncompass, and for the others, we should develop our own version, if any. Texugo (talk) 12:44, 10 July 2013 (UTC)
• Keep the original barnstar. I'm still not 100% sold on the barncompass, and the barnstar has an awful lot of wiki-history behind it. LtPowers (talk) 14:11, 10 July 2013 (UTC)
• Redirect all to Template:Barncompass. -- AndreCarrotflower (talk) 17:04, 10 July 2013 (UTC)

These are templates, not articles. These can be be either kept or deleted. --Saqib (talk) 17:55, 10 July 2013 (UTC)

Not true, templates can be redirected too. --Rschen7754 18:13, 10 July 2013 (UTC)

Yes, but in this case, I don't think anybody will ever go to search for barnstars nominated above for deletion when WikiLove is already present. I don't see any benefit in redirecting these templates. --Saqib (talk) 18:24, 10 July 2013 (UTC)

The rationale is simple. I have an Original Barnstar on my talk page that would be a redlink if the template were deleted. Instead, I suggest that it be redirected so my Barnstar becomes a Barncompass. -- AndreCarrotflower (talk) 18:39, 10 July 2013 (UTC)

I would oppose redirection (and deletion, for that matter) for that reason: Someone gave you a barnstar, not a barncompass. If they want to change the award, that's fine, but we should not change it for them. LtPowers (talk) 18:44, 10 July 2013 (UTC)

So you must had said redirect only the original barnstar. Btw, we can perhaps replace the original barnstar template code with actual template code so deleting the barnstar will not affect user talk pages, it has been used on. --Saqib (talk) 18:46, 10 July 2013 (UTC)

On the 7 pages that The Original Barnstar is currently used on it could be replaced with {{subst:The Original Barnstar}} -- WOSlinker (talk) 05:59, 11 July 2013 (UTC)

WOSlinker gets today's prize for being right on the money ;) --Peter ^Talk 21:50, 11 July 2013 (UTC)

Keep. There's an admin barnstar on my talk page & I agree with LtPowers above. We should not change it.

Also, in general any template that is common on our sister wikis should get the benefit of the doubt here; that makes it easier for people from other wikis to drop in. Pashley (talk) 15:04, 11 July 2013 (UTC)

Comment - As WOSlinker points out above, previously given barnstars are a non-issue, as they can simply be substituted. Texugo (talk) 15:54, 11 July 2013 (UTC)

The Admin's Barnstar on Pashley's user talk page is substituted already. --Saqib (talk) 16:10, 11 July 2013 (UTC)

• Comment: It's true that existing uses can be subst'd. But considering how adamant many were that we keep Template:Done because "Wikimedians will expect it to be available", it seems odd that we so easily discard the original barnstar. LtPowers (talk) 23:30, 11 July 2013 (UTC)

  Unlike the Template:Done case, we have equivalents for barnstars here. James A ▪ talk 11:12, 13 July 2013 (UTC)

• Keep. I'm with LtPowers and Pashley. Sometimes its worth keeping something even if its for the nostalgia factor and this is that sui genersis case. -- Sapphire (talk) 11:21, 13 July 2013 (UTC)

Comment: In that case, there is no nostalgia factor involved with any of them except for the original barnstar. While the original image has a history of use here, none of the others existed here until they were imported in January, and have still not been used. Also, as an aside, the one on Pashley's talk page is not one for which a template exists, and such a template should not exists because the image is specifically made for wikipedia, with the puzzle-globe wikipedia logo superimposed on it. Texugo (talk) 12:18, 13 July 2013 (UTC)

I agree; the other barnstars don't have much purpose here. LtPowers (talk) 15:14, 13 July 2013 (UTC)

Result: Template:The Original Barnstar Kept, Template:The Random Acts of Kindness Barnstar, Template:The Editor's Barnstar, and Template:The Working Wikivoyager's Barnstar Deleted. --Saqib (talk) 23:28, 21 July 2013 (UTC)