Talk:Basque Country

sources for further research

• Eat: --(WT-en) DenisYurkin 19:22, 9 November 2007 (EST)

boat

does anyone have a clue how to get to Euskadi by boat from the UK?

There was (is ?) a ferry service to Bilbao from Plymouth or Portsmouth. There is one from Plymouth to Santander which isn't far from Bilbao. 83.192.124.39 19:05, 14 August 2008 (EDT)

ETA

surely its worth mentioning ETA (basque seperatist group), they have been known to be rather violent —The preceding comment was added by (WT-en) 212.219.49.2 (talk • contribs)

• ETA is mentioned in the history section of the article. If you think there is more to say, please plunge forward. (WT-en) Jnich99 12:41, 6 July 2010 (EDT)

Since ETA's actions are not limited to Basque Country, I think Spain#Stay safe would be a better place to mention it. However, as average travellers are well away from ETA's target list (heck, they call the police to inform whenever they plant a bomb in a public place), it can even go without a mention there, too. – (WT-en) Vidimian 13:10, 6 July 2010 (EDT)

Navarre and French Basque Country

Whhere are Navarre and French Basque Country? —The preceding comment was added by (WT-en) 195.57.68.101 (talk • contribs) 12:37, 20 September 2010

Here and here. Slightly more seriously, in the current geographical hierarchy, Navarre and Basque Country are both part of Northern Spain, while French Basque Country/Pyrénées-Atlantiques is a part of Southwestern France. If you disagree with the way it is, you may start a discussion at Talk:Northern Spain. – (WT-en) Vidimian 14:41, 28 September 2010 (EDT)

Oh, this is a problem. I just followed up on an edit that added these areas to this article, which is quite accurate definitionally. I was going to bring up the issue of which cities to delete in order to get to 9. Ikan Kekek (talk) 09:47, 8 February 2013 (UTC)

Well, as I see it, the problem is that they call both an autonomous subunit of Spain and the larger Basque homeland, which contains the said autonomous region as well as the neighbouring bits of Spain and France, as the "Basque Country" (Wikipedia articles here: w:Basque Country (autonomous community) and w:Basque Country (greater region)). I don't think we should really be listing Galician towns such as Baiona in the article for the autonomous community of Basque Country, whether they are ethnically/culturally Basque or not (listing French towns in what is essentially a region of Spain would even be worse). This article may be renamed (but what?) to make it clearer that we only mean the autonomous Spanish region of Basque Country (or we might have explanations in this article to that effect), and then set up a disambiguation style page that would link to various articles about the regions that are inhabited by the Basque people (and link that disambig from here). Vidimian (talk) 10:06, 8 February 2013 (UTC)

I understand the issue. How about having "Basque Country" redirect to "Basque Autonomous Zone," then starting this article with a disambig with links to Navarra and the French Basque country and including what's currently the first bulleted explanation, starting with the Basque name - "The Autonomous Community of Euskadi"? Would that work? Ikan Kekek (talk) 10:29, 8 February 2013 (UTC)

If we'll have "Basque Country" redirect to this article, then why bother changing its name to a longer (and, frankly, an ugly) one? I'd agree with the links to Navarra and the French Basque Country, as well as starting the article with the Basque name. And if having this article under the name "Basque Country" is unacceptable for Basque editors, provided there are no oppositions, we could even change its name to Euskadi, which would be crystal clear, as the native name for the larger containing Basque homeland is different—Euskal Herria. The one-liner explanations in, say, Northern Spain#Regions can take care of English speakers who haven't heard the Basque name, then, I guess. Vidimian (talk) 11:00, 8 February 2013 (UTC)

Sounds reasonable to me, but I wish Argiemanaz had read my note on his/her user talk page and weighed in, and I hope s/he still does. Ikan Kekek (talk) 21:34, 8 February 2013 (UTC)

Is this a region article?

Or something else? The hierarchy seems to firmly place the Basque Country inside Spain, as does most of the content of the article, but the lead and some elements of content also seem to want to include the French Basque Country. I should think it would better serve the traveller if this article only dealt with the Autonomous Community that is wholly within Spain, and leave the Navarre and the French Basque Country to (already extant) separate articles. Of course I am aware this could be a thorny political issue. Does anyone else have an opinion on this? --ThunderingTyphoons! (talk) 22:50, 18 April 2016 (UTC)

I'd suggest focusing it on the Autonomous Community and explaining the larger context in "Understand", probably at the beginning of the section, before "History". Unrelated: Photos are needed in the article. I'll add one. Ikan Kekek (talk) 09:51, 21 April 2016 (UTC)

Ah, thanks for the response and your opinion, Ikan, I agree there should be some information about the wider context and the other Basque areas not in this region. --ThunderingTyphoons! (talk) 13:23, 21 April 2016 (UTC)

I tried to make the scope a little clearer. I think the lead is important for defining the scope, but could not come up with any good wording. --LPfi (talk) 09:19, 11 January 2018 (UTC)

I'd forgotten about this article. Thanks, LPfi :-) --ThunderingTyphoons! (talk) 12:08, 11 January 2018 (UTC)