Talk:Chicago/Hyde Park

Notes

picture is still covering text. --71.254.97.20 00:16, 22 April 2008 (EDT) gj peter --71.254.97.20 00:16, 22 April 2008 (EDT)

Star nomination

OK, after my 20-odd nit-picking edits today and a thorough map update, I think this article is finally up to star status. Again, there are a few photos I have in mind to add/substitute, but I'll have to wait until I'm back in the area to take them, and the article doesn't need them anyway. For some reason, I'm not quite as satisfied with this district as with Bronzeville—if you figure out why this is, please let me know! --(WT-en) Peter ^Talk 02:39, 25 July 2007 (EDT)

I'm confused here. We have two districts of Chicago currently nominated for star status, but the article for the city itself is currently only tagged as usable. Looks guide-ish to me, but I don't know the area well enough to judge. Checking three districts at random, I got two guides and one usable. Could we get to the point where we have one big star for the whole city? (WT-en) Pashley 08:32, 25 July 2007 (EDT)

We downgraded the main Chicago article at the outset of dividing the city into districts. I think the content of the article itself is solid (having written a lot of it), but the grading criteria for Huge City articles says that for a Huge City to be a guide, all of its district articles must be at least usable, and for a Huge City to be a star, all of its district articles must be at least guides. So we have one district left to make usable (Chicago/Southwest Side), and then we need to push the rest forward to guide status and do a little more work on the main article before we make it a star (which is our goal). (WT-en) Gorilla Jones 09:47, 25 July 2007 (EDT)

Support. The depth of information is terrific (without being excessive - I like that you pruned a couple of the more mundane listings), and the descriptions give a sense of insight from an insider. The map covers a lot of ground and does so well, another impressive job. I'd like to see a more compelling opening - it's pretty dry until the descriptions of Oakwood and Kenwood in the neighborhoods section. And it's not clear if we can visit any of the listings in Kenwood architecture - I assume not, since you tend to be thorough with these things, but I think it should be explicit. Are there opening/closing hours for Jackson Park and/or the places within, like the Japanese Garden? (Is that free?) Is the University still doing DOC films? As I recall, those are free or cheap, and tend to be great selections. (WT-en) Gorilla Jones 10:40, 25 July 2007 (EDT)

• Support. Excellent article. Also support the strategy of a huge city achieving stardom district by district. — (WT-en) Ravikiran 01:15, 27 July 2007 (EDT)

Last call for comments...no dissent so far, but it would be good to get more opinions on this one. (WT-en) Gorilla Jones 12:22, 7 August 2007 (EDT)

Umm, temporary don't support. I want to address Marc's points before this gets starred, Doc films should really be in there. I will do this today and, provided there aren't any other objections, will drop my own and star the article before the 14 days are up! --(WT-en) Peter ^Talk 17:05, 8 August 2007 (EDT)

Ok, this article is ready. Speak now or forever hold your peace, until you feel like revising the status. --(WT-en) Peter ^Talk 21:04, 8 August 2007 (EDT)

• Support. Better late than never. Keep up the good work guys! – (WT-en) cacahuate ^talk 02:14, 9 August 2007 (EDT)

Yep. Thanks for chiming in! (WT-en) Gorilla Jones 02:34, 9 August 2007 (EDT)

Closed listings

In the Sun-Times yesterday — bummer. (WT-en) Gorilla Jones 15:50, 23 May 2009 (EDT)

• <eat name="Dixie Kitchen & Bait Shop" alt="" address="5225 S Harper Ave" directions="" phone="+1 773 363-4943" email="" fax="" hours="Su-Th 11AM-10PM, F-Sa 11AM-11PM" price="$8-10" url="">One of the best restaurants in Hyde Park, Dixie Kitchen serves "pan-Southern" cuisine on checkerboard tablecloth with a 1930s eatery ambiance. This transplanted bit of 1930s Mississippi is one of the best places in the city to get a nice meal of southern food, or so says Barack.</eat>

Disaster. It's one of the best places for a good meal in the area (IMO). I'm surprised this place didn't get more business with the "Obama bump." It certainly would have gotten a plug in that ever-planned Obama tour of Chicag itinerary. Well, I'll be hitting the fried green tomatoes again before June 7th. --(WT-en) Peter ^Talk 16:00, 23 May 2009 (EDT)

Yeah, I'm in disbelief. The same owner has two Dixie Kitchens that are staying open (one in Evanston, as I recall), but this was the one that got the Obama nod. Keep an eye out for any last-minute presidential orders... (WT-en) Gorilla Jones 16:08, 23 May 2009 (EDT)

Is this due to the recession perhaps? (WT-en) edmontonenthusiast [ee] ^.T.A.L.K. 16:03, 23 May 2009 (EDT).

• <buy name="Dr Wax" alt="" directions="" address="5225 S Harper Ave" phone="+1 773 439-8696" email="" fax="" hours="M-Sa 11AM-7PM, Su noon-6PM" price="" url="http://www.drwax.com">Used records and new and used CDs. All sorts of music.</buy>

• <eat name="Caffe Florian" alt="" address="1450 E 57th St" directions="" phone="+1 773 752-4100" email="" fax="" hours="Su-Th 11AM-11PM, F-Sa 11AM-midnight" price="$5-8" url="">An Italian cafe popular with the students. Most of the menu at the Florian is uninspired, but their deep-dish pizza is a true neighborhood favorite.</eat>

Can't believe Caffe Florian is closed after all these years. --(WT-en) Peter ^Talk 16:59, 10 September 2010 (EDT)

• <sleep name="Wooded Isle Suites" alt="" address="5750 S Stony Island Ave" directions="" phone="+1 800 290-6844 " url="http://woodedisle.com" checkin="" checkout="" price="$180-217 (can go as low as $60 off-season)" lat="" long="" email="Reserve@woodedisle.com" fax="+1 773 288-8972">A pretty fantastic option for staying in Hyde Park, the Wooded Isle suites are right next to the Museum of Science and Industry, Jackson Park, the 57th St Metra station, and the 57th St dining strip. All rooms include a fully equipped kitchen and housekeeping service every other day. It's a bit of a walk to the University (0.8 miles), but make your student come visit you here — it's also just a couple blocks from the beach. </sleep>

Closed. (WT-en) Eco84 09:19, 8 July 2012 (EDT)

• <drink name="BackStory Cafe" alt="" address="6100 S Blackstone" directions="" phone="+1 773 324-9987" email="Backstory@TheExperimentalStation.com" fax="" url="http://backstorycafe.com" hours="8AM-8PM daily" price="Food: $3-6">Chicago's most hidden gem is nearly impossible to find, but may be Chicago's finest cafe. Run by Woodlawn's artsy/social-cause-chasing Experimentation Station, this extraordinarily laid-back cafe serves incredible fresh coffee (details like the measurement of coffee beans really pay off) and whole pots (for 2-4 people) of quality loose leaf teas for just $4.50. And they have free WiFi. And they screen free indie films/documentaries on Sunday nights. And open mic on Friday nights. To find the place, which is located in an odd industrial/construction zone, with minimal signage, head south from the Midway on Dorchester to take a left on 61st St. It's just around the corner at the dead end on what barely passes for a street. Lastly, don't worry about the location, the streets around the cafe are perfectly safe.</drink>

Gah. That was a real favorite of mine. --(WT-en) Peter ^Talk 13:39, 8 July 2012 (EDT)

Moved listings

Note to whomever edits the map next time: the Artisans 21 Gallery has moved from 5225 S Harper Ave to 1373 E 53rd St. (WT-en) Eco84 09:48, 8 July 2012 (EDT)

The Original Pancake House has moved from 1517 E Hyde Park Blvd to 1358 E 47th St. (WT-en) Eco84 01:07, 9 July 2012 (EDT)

Nitpicky Dissent

I disagree slightly with this article's comments about parking. The University Police don't enforce street parking rules, that's up to the City of Chicago. I agree that the city's enforcement is pretty rough (both meter and free spaces), and the proliferation of permit-required blocks in the neighborhoods surrounding the University shows the impact of the very tight parking situation. Weekend parking is usually not a problem. Seem reasonable to tweak this section a bit? Kaylea H Champion (talk) 09:59, 17 January 2013 (UTC)

Parking is a very different story nowadays than when I wrote that in 2007—I think it's now much harder anywhere in the neighborhood. Please update! --Peter ^Talk 07:45, 18 January 2013 (UTC)

It's not quite correct that there are twice as many police in Hyde Park than any other neighborhood around -- the City of Chicago re-allocates police presence based on quantity of 911 calls from an area over time, so it's difficult to generalize accurately. Seem ok to change this? Kaylea H Champion (talk) 09:59, 17 January 2013 (UTC)

Hmm, I'm less sure. Are you saying that higher crime neighborhoods may have so much more Chicago police patrolling because of need, that they may have as much as Hyde Park even including the uchicago police presence? Maybe—but the university police force is pretty huge. The NOI police also have a presence ;) --Peter ^Talk 07:45, 18 January 2013 (UTC)

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