Talk:Latin America

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Do anything with this article?[edit]

Should we do anything with this article or should it remain the pretty useless stubby list it is now? Hobbitschuster (talk) 16:05, 13 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]

I expanded it a bit. Copy-editing and giving examples other than those I happen to be familiar with much welcome. Hobbitschuster (talk) 17:25, 8 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Perón and Castro in one breath with the "pink tide"?[edit]

First of all, the decisive moment of the pink tide was that they were elected and not overthrown (unlike - say - Allende in Chile). So Castro while perhaps important does not fit that mold as he never won a democratic election (or held one). As for Perón being a leftist, I think there are quite a few people who would vehemently disagree with that, not least because Perón had pretty blatant Nazi sympathies and chose franquist Spain as his exile. Also, what on earth does the year 1973 have to do with Perón's rise? Yes it was the year of his last presidency, but he died the following year... Hobbitschuster (talk) 21:04, 3 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Sorry, that was my mistake. It should have been 1946. But one thing Perón did was to institute protectionist policies that made it very difficult for foreign companies to do business in Argentina, which is most certainly a left-wing position. Perón was hated by the upper-class elites, but loved by the masses of working-class Argentinians, which would generally place him on the left. Traditionally, the right fought for the interests of the nobility, while the left fought for the interests of the working class. But yes, I do acknowledge that people can have both left and right wing positions. Take Donald Trump for example. His position on immigration (and many other things like climate change, race relations, religion, etc.) is most certainly right-wing, but his position on international trade is most certainly a left-wing one. The dog2 (talk) 21:24, 3 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]
There are - and have always been - anti-protectionist left wingers. Just like there have been leftist hawks and right wing doves. Hobbitschuster (talk) 21:36, 3 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]
In any case, I think these two should be mentioned in some form because of their notability. And I would even say we could even include the role of the U.S. in bringing down some democratically-elected leaders in favour of U.S.-friendly dictators, or even their attempted assassination of Fidel Castro. The dog2 (talk) 21:45, 3 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]
US influence is mentioned earlier in the history paragraph. Remember that this is an attempt at the impossible, a history of Latin America without extreme generalization that still doesn't get bogged down in details. Hobbitschuster (talk) 21:49, 3 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]

French-speaking countries[edit]

Too much detail but not enough breadth?[edit]

The danger in the "History" section is, as Hobbitschuster wrote in 2018, getting bogged down in details (that I'd add aren't clearly travel-relevant), but what's lacking in the history is highlights of pre-Columbian civilizations. I think I'll add a little. Ikan Kekek (talk) 21:47, 20 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]

I added a bit on pre-Columbian civilizations, but more can be added as long as it's readable and clearly travel-relevant. Ikan Kekek (talk) 22:16, 20 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]