Talk:Muntenia
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[edit]Muntenia is right now split in 10 empty county articles sharing a total of 11 linked cities. I suggest that we redirect from these county articles even though it will imply 11 cities in the Muntenia article. Any objections?, --(WT-en) ClausHansen 18:10, 5 August 2010 (EDT)
- It has been quite a while and no one has commented, but now the number of cities is up to 18, which is a little much for a single region, but certainly not nearly enough for 10 subregions. Can this region be divided into 2 or 3 subregions? Say, east/west, or east/central/west? Texugo (talk) 18:35, 6 November 2013 (UTC)
- I've added a map into the article showing the location of the cities and main roads between them, in order to help with the split into regions... However, i myself am unable to come up with a complete list of definite rules as to how to perform such split as you ask for. The only group of counties i can immediately think of is marked in bright yellow in the image to the right: they used to be a single county at one time, but it got split some years ago. Maybe the two in the south-west could be grouped together too (though the region they'd form wouldn't have any historically or geographically meaningful name), but then how to split the five counties in the northern half, and how to name them? -- Jokes Free4Me (talk) 22:44, 27 December 2013 (UTC)
- Also, the Prahova valley (in the middle of the northern half) seems to provide the most destinations... Maybe its county should be left to stand as a 5th (or 6th if you also count Bucharest) region by itself? -- Jokes Free4Me (talk) 23:33, 27 December 2013 (UTC)
- If 18 cities is too much for a region, I propose we keep Prahova County, which has 7 of those cities, and drop the other counties (redirect to Muntenia). It even makes sense from a traveller's perspective to have Prahova County separate since it can be a destination by itself. In any case, the current setup - which has 10 counties with pretty much no content and 18 cities is not OK. IonutBizau (talk) 10:03, 2 October 2014 (UTC)
- There has been no reply for a while, I'll go ahead and redirect all counties except Prahova County to the region, unless somebody opposes. IonutBizau (talk) 11:30, 24 November 2014 (UTC)
- If 18 cities is too much for a region, I propose we keep Prahova County, which has 7 of those cities, and drop the other counties (redirect to Muntenia). It even makes sense from a traveller's perspective to have Prahova County separate since it can be a destination by itself. In any case, the current setup - which has 10 counties with pretty much no content and 18 cities is not OK. IonutBizau (talk) 10:03, 2 October 2014 (UTC)
- You might get some ideas by looking at the article for Fujian and its divisions. That is a Chinese province broken into prefectures. We do not have articles for most prefectures, but both the top-level article and some of the city articles mention them. Could something like that work for the counties here? Pashley (talk) 14:38, 18 December 2014 (UTC)
There seems to be a rule saying that for any region, you either you divide it fully or you don't. So rather than having a bunch of cities + Prahova County, we would have to actually divide Muntenia into sub-regions. One logical way would be to have 2 sub-regions - 1. The Mountains in the North, and 2. The plains in the South. Now the problem is how to name the two. Mountainous North would be a decent name for the first. For the 2nd I'd go with Wallachian Plain. The only issue is that there is a small part of the Wallachian Plain which is not in Muntenia, but in Oltenia (see wikipedia:Wallachian_Plain). If this is considered to be wrong by some, we could just name it The Southern Plains or something along these lines. Any other opinions on this approach? Any better names, if we decide to go with this split? IonutBizau (talk) 05:55, 20 December 2014 (UTC)
- OK, there is no reply, but I think splitting between North and South makes most sense. I'll go ahead with that change. We can change the names of the regions later if we want to. IonutBizau (talk) 08:18, 27 December 2014 (UTC)
New sub-regions
[edit]So, there has been a lot of discussion on redefining the sub-regions for this region. I decided to bite the bullet and go for a North/South division. Feel free to comment - if you think we can find better names for the sub-regions, or if you think we can add another sub-region, or a city is not where it should be, or I made a mistake in the process, let me know! IonutBizau (talk) 09:01, 27 December 2014 (UTC)
Counties
[edit]I disagree the ideea with the two sub-region. A better ideea would be if it were 10 sub-region (because in Muntenia are 10 counties). From my point of view is a big problem. For example in Argeș County, the touristic atractions are splited by Wallachian Plain and Mountain North. IonutBizau what do you think ? Romanichthys Valsanicola 24 April 2017 22:20 (EET)
- Maybe it makes sense to have the counties as "city" articles? Hobbitschuster (talk) 19:27, 24 April 2017 (UTC)
Counties in Muntenia
[edit]Why I can not create articles for the counties in Muntenia ? In Transylvania are article for the counties from there. --Romanichthys Valsanicola (talk) 07:35, 11 July 2017 (UTC) Romanichthys Valsanicola (talk) 10:33, 11 July 2017 (EET)
- Muntenia is divided into two regions, Wallachian Plain and Mountainous North (Muntenia). Neither of these articles has very much information in them -- they are just lists of 11 or 12 places each. Dividing them into counties would only make navigation more difficult. Do you have content to add to each county article? Can you add the content to the two regional articles instead? What advantage would there be for travellers to having county articles? Dividing Transylvania into county articles may not be the best way of organizing the guide, so we wouldn't want to repeat that mistake with Muntenia. Ground Zero (talk) 10:17, 11 July 2017 (UTC)