Talk:New Hampshire

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Cities

since there are more than 9 cities, can Salem go since there are three other cities on the list that are very close by? Godsendlemiwinks (talk) 03:29, 21 April 2013 (UTC)

If you think that's the least interesting or/and important city on the list, I'd say, go ahead and remove it. Or put it in "Other Destinations." A phrase or sentence describing each city would be nice, too.Ikan Kekek (talk) 03:36, 21 April 2013 (UTC)

The nine cities on the map are the ones that have been in this article long-term. That means Berlin (notice its non-alphabetical position) was (relatively) recently added, and no one caught it. However, considering the other nine are all in the southern part of the state, perhaps a northern city should be listed. Is Berlin the most important community for tourists north of Concord and Rochester? Or is there some other candidate? LtPowers (talk) 13:56, 21 April 2013 (UTC)

The original 9 cities look like someone just listed the 9 biggest cities in the state. Salem is a pretty uninteresting suburb. Its claim to fame is "America's Stonehenge", which could go in other destinations, and a large mall. Derry and Rochester aren't very interesting either. North Conway has a better article than most of the cities on the list and it's a major tourist destination for the northern part of the state. I would vote for getting rid of Salem and adding North Conway to replace Berlin, Derry, or Rochester.Godsendlemiwinks (talk) 15:48, 21 April 2013 (UTC)

I noticed that Hanover (New Hampshire) wasn't listed among the original cities even though I think it really should be, for the following reasons: 1. It's a pretty major destination being home to Dartmouth College, being on the Appalachian Trail, and being close to the Quechee area of Vermont (which I intend to make an article for, since I am quite familiar with the area). 2. It's near two decently common entry points to the state: the Lebanon airport, and the train station in White River Junction. As far as I can tell, this is the only major entry point to the state North of the Southern suburban fringe 3. It's a good base to go to Mount Washington State Park (or at the very least closer than anywhere else we've listed on the front page), which is one of the State's major sites. 4. It improves geographic distribution of the cities we list on the New Hampshire page. Right now we have 8 cities in the Southern suburban Boston fringe, plus one way up North that has no content. Hanover has content, I personally can add even more than is listed, and it's in the middle of the state going North-South. Thoughts? Rastapopulous (talk) 22:33, 14 May 2013 (UTC)

I'm sure Hanover is a fine choice, but we can't have ten cities in the list. Normally I'd just remove it, but you made the addition in good faith and came here to discuss it... but you do need to suggest one of the nine other cities to remove to make room for Hanover. LtPowers (talk) 02:20, 15 May 2013 (UTC)

I personally would recommend either Derry or Rochester, as both of those articles are currently not very developed and they do not contribute to geographic spread. Derry would work reasonably as an Other Destination, since it seems the main attraction is Robert Frost's farm.

Rastapopulous (talk) 03:29, 15 May 2013 (UTC)

Godsendlemiwinks above suggested that Salem was just a suburb and not very interesting; what do you think? LtPowers (talk) 12:49, 15 May 2013 (UTC)

Salem was already removed to make way for Berlin. Rastapopulous (talk) 14:35, 15 May 2013 (UTC)

Duh. Sorry. LtPowers (talk) 14:55, 15 May 2013 (UTC)

My proposal right now is to move Derry to OD, as its one attraction is a farmstead anyway, thus making room for Hanover Rastapopulous (talk) 15:50, 15 May 2013 (UTC)

After looking at it, I agree it doesn't seem like a major New Hampshire destination. I don't even know if it's worth putting in Other Destinations. LtPowers (talk) 19:07, 15 May 2013 (UTC)

Derry has been removed. Rastapopulous (talk) 20:53, 15 May 2013 (UTC)

Other Destinations

Its recently come to my attention that cities/towns can't be used as ODs. Although it probably wouldn't exist without the ski resort, Waterville Valley is a town. Should it be removed? Godsendlemiwinks (talk) 02:10, 22 April 2013 (UTC)

Why can't they be? Ikan Kekek (talk) 06:19, 22 April 2013 (UTC)

A pub discussion on this subject would be helpful, but please also see Talk:Michigan#Cities where a number of pointers are provided for using "Other destinations" to list cities in cases where there is an attraction in the city that is more famous than the city itself, which would seem to apply in the case of a town that is known mostly only because of its ski resort. -- Ryan • (talk) • 15:26, 22 April 2013 (UTC)

(edit conflict) We have been known to fudge the rule a bit for things like ski resorts and military battlefields where one attraction completely and totally overshadows any city-like aspects of the destination, even if the destination article doesn't use the Park template. For example, Gettysburg is listed under Other Destinations on the Pennsylvania and Mid-Atlantic articles, hidden behind text that refers to the battlefield instead of the city. Another example is Niagara Falls in the New York (state), Mid-Atlantic, United States of America, and North America articles. Niagara Falls is a city, yes, and we treat it like one in the Niagara Frontier, Niagara County, and Niagara Falls articles, but at higher levels of the hierarchy, where it doesn't belong in the "Cities" section, we put it in "Other Destinations" because people will be looking for it there.

So, in this case, I think Waterville Valley is fine in the Other Destinations, since it is primarily a ski resort.

LtPowers (talk) 15:31, 22 April 2013 (UTC)

Ok, that makes sense. I was trying to fill out the other destinations list for New England with things in states that weren't represented and thought Stowe would be the best representative for Vermont. Although it's bigger than Waterville Valley, the ski resort is the main reason for the town's existence. —The preceding comment was added by Godsendlemiwinks (talk • contribs)

Vermont is unfairly unrepresented there; I added Green Mountains. LtPowers (talk) 19:56, 22 April 2013 (UTC)

I added a topic on Talk: New England to see if anyone has ideas for filling out the rest of the ODs. I think its the only US region article that didn't have 9. Godsendlemiwinks (talk) 20:40, 22 April 2013 (UTC)