Talk:Vogtland

Is this region really needed?

Yes I know it is a real and identifiable region and most Germans could at least guess as to its whereabouts. But it is quite small in area and inhabitants and thus far only one of its cities has an article... So what shall we do? Hobbitschuster (talk) 14:25, 17 August 2015 (UTC)

I guess it's hard to discuss this for Vogtland as an individual region. The 2010 rationale/discussion behind the current division of Saxony into these (quote) culturally determined regions is at Talk:Saxony. If you'd like to rethink the division, that's probably the best place to discuss it. Atsirlin was involved back then, and PrinceGloria might know something about the region? JuliasTravels (talk) 16:57, 17 August 2015 (UTC)

I don't think that one should move things back and forth in this case. The Vogtland region is very well-defined. The article can be improved by, e.g., writing brief descriptions of individual cities. Even if these cities do not have their own articles, these descriptions will be very useful for those people who want to plan their trip around this region. Here is an example of how we recently created some sub-regions of the Czech republic. All city articles are red links, but the regional article contains enough information to be useful. --Alexander (talk) 19:07, 17 August 2015 (UTC)

I am with Alexander. Vogtland is definitely a recognized region and I believe we cannot simply wipe out this part of Saxony, especially since other regions are better developed and I do not see much potential or need for reconsolidation. It is rather a question of developing this article. Perhaps we might remove redlinks if we believe none of the destinations could get a reasonable article and just link Plauen from the body of this article, treating this region as the final-level destination but for the said city. PrinceGloria (talk) 20:06, 17 August 2015 (UTC)

The problem is that there are no noteworthy cities in the are except Plauen and even our article on Plauen is not exactly star material.... Hobbitschuster (talk) 20:23, 17 August 2015 (UTC)

This is not true. My German guidebook for Saxony has a separate section for Vogtland, which is at least as long as the one for Oberlausitz. Reichenbach is a noteworthy destination, while other places are smaller and may need their own format because they are scattered around the region. In any case, the fact that something has not been described in Wikivoyage (or even in Wikipedia) does not mean that this thing does not exist. --Alexander (talk) 21:02, 17 August 2015 (UTC)

I think Alexander is right. Some of these are small towns in terms of permanent inhabitants, but the area seems to be quite noteworthy when it comes to tourism. A quick glance shows plenty of places to stay, plenty of things to see, cultural heritage, Kurtorten, winter sports, lots of hiking and biking. There sure seems to be enough to fill a few articles, even when no-one is interested in doing it now. That said, it's true that it's a sad set for now, and it would be fine to go with PrinceGloria's suggestion. If, at a later stage, anyone wants to have a go at the small towns, they can always create new links. JuliasTravels (talk) 21:09, 17 August 2015 (UTC)

so almost half a year has passed now and next to nothing has happened. What shall we do now? Hobbitschuster (talk) 13:54, 25 December 2015 (UTC)

de:Vogtland does have stuff to translate and there are also basic to decent articles in German for several cities and towns in the region. Deleting just one of Saxony's regions doesn't really accomplish anything useful IMO. ϒpsilon (talk) 14:09, 25 December 2015 (UTC)

┌────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────┘ so someone should do some tranalating. Hobbitschuster (talk) 17:17, 25 December 2015 (UTC)