Talk:Warsaw/Western Centre

VfD

This file was nominated for deletion on 13 July 2013 but was kept. The deletion debate is here. Please consider that decision before you re-nominate it.

• Delete because there are already guides for the three districts that make up this district, making this a redundant article. I don't recommend redirecting this since no one has ever referred to these districts as the "Western Center." -- Sapphire (talk) 11:03, 13 July 2013 (UTC)
• Keep. Warsaw has too many districts (18, waaay bigger Berlin has 6), this article was created as a step to reduce the number. See Talk:Warsaw#Districtifying. Jjtkk (talk) 15:05, 13 July 2013 (UTC)
• Comment - sorry guys, I am the perpetrator. See talk page as per Jjtkk's comment above. I thought that I'd be done with this quite quickly given the consensus there, and then had to abort it for a moment and forgot it is in the mainspace. I shall push through with merging districts ASAP unless there appears significant opposition. Kindest, PrinceGloria (talk) 16:21, 13 July 2013 (UTC)
• Comment These districts absolutely should not be merged in the way that were. They have a tremendous amount of importance to many travelers and it would be a disservice to wrongly merge these districts. Never once in my six years in Warsaw have I ever been to Wawer, Wesola, Rembertow, Bielany, Bielany, or Białołęka, so I could see this districts being merged into something more reasonable, but absolutely not this concoction. -- Sapphire (talk) 10:19, 14 July 2013 (UTC)

Please discuss in the talk page where we started talking about this ages ago, and not here. If they have such tremendous importance, there should be content to support this, which there currently isn't. One day there might be enough content to start splitting those articles, but at this moment there is very little action to those pages at all. I would just like to attempt to build a usable guide with the information we have and some effort the few editors who care at all can expend.

In my many decades of living in Warsaw, comparing it to other cities I visited and know well, there really isn't a need for every district of Warsaw to have an article. Berlin does fine with 6, as mentioned, and it has at least an equal wealth of tourist attractions and points of interest.

Again, come to the talk page and do not nominate pages for deletion, it is better that way. Thanks, PrinceGloria (talk) 10:26, 14 July 2013 (UTC)

PrinceGloria, I have commented on the talk page, but its also important to explain why this district article is a bad idea when its been nominated for deletion. -- Sapphire (talk) 11:08, 14 July 2013 (UTC)

You seem to miss the point - you should first join the districtification discussion in the main article if you do not like the currently consented-by-community districtification and voice both your opposition and counterarguments there, and only VfD articles if the discussion is resolved. VfD is not a substitute for discussions on talk pages, otherwise we'd have everything at VfD because somebody doesn't like it. This is a last-resort measure and mostly used for clear-cut cases. And if you took a deep breath you would realize a better solution would be to move it to e.g. my userspace rather than delete, which you can feel free to do. Relax. PrinceGloria (talk) 11:26, 14 July 2013 (UTC)

• Comment. I suggest to close this nomination for now and discuss districts on the Warsaw talk page first. --Alexander (talk) 14:37, 14 July 2013 (UTC)
• Speedy keep. There is no deletion rationale—at most, the article should be redirected to Warsaw per Wikivoyage:Deletion policy#Deleting vs. redirecting. But as others have noted, this should be discussed at Talk:Warsaw, and absolutely not on the vfd page. --Peter ^Talk 21:39, 15 July 2013 (UTC)

Result: Speedily kept per strong consensus to "keep" and Peter's speedy-keep rationale -- AndreCarrotflower (talk) 23:13, 15 July 2013 (UTC)