Talk:Welkenraedt

Merger to Kelmis

There really not very much in this hamlet, and nowhere to stay. It would be easier for readers to readers to find this information if it were merged into Kelmis, which is 7.5 km away, and a likely base for visiting. Ground Zero (talk) 12:44, 26 December 2022 (UTC)

I'm not entirely certain about what the better merger/move would be out of these three:

• Kelmis, closest to Henri-Chapelle by proximity;
• Welkenraedt, the municipality to which Henri-Chapelle belongs;
• Eupen, next-closest to Henri-Chapelle and closest to Welkenraedt.

I would say that Kelmis is my least favourite option, as that town was its own country from 1816 to 1920, Neutral Moresnet. It makes more sense to me to leave Kelmis alone, so that that article can build around that history. Welkenraedt is my preferred option, though that article is yet to be written. It would then also make sense to merge the municipality of Lontzen in there as well, as Welkenraedt borders the largest town in that municipality, Herbesthal.

Complicating this all is the language border of Wallonia that runs through this area. Welkenraedt is French-speaking, Herbesthal and Eupen are German-speaking, as is Kelmis, though due to its historical status, French, Dutch and Esperanto were also spoken there. I do not know to what extend that's still the case.
-- Wauteurz (talk) 14:04, 26 December 2022 (UTC)

Eupen is 10 km away, so that would also be a good candidate, at least until there is an article for Welkenraedt.

My point is that Henri-Chapelle should be treated as a point of interest, rather than as a destination because there is only one thing there, and there is no place to stay. Which town provides the easiest access to the site? While linguistic boundaries are tremendously important to Beligans, for those looking to visit the cemetery, who will mostly be Americans, ease of access is more important than linguistic boundaries. Ground Zero (talk) 14:14, 26 December 2022 (UTC)

I wouldn't say that the linguistic border is completely irrelevant, but it isn't a very important border either. For accessibility, most of the buses from Henri-Chapelle, Monument connect to the train station in Welkenraedt, from where it's seven minutes by train to Eupen. Kelmis is not very accessible through public transit. Connection by car is pretty straightforward from both as well. From Kelmis, it's a direct route. From Eupen, it's a combination of the N67 and N3. Distance wise, the two kilometres won't be a deal-breaker to anyone travelling by car. I'd say based on that, that Eupen would be the better option to merge with, but I can make an effort to set up an article for Welkenraedt as well.

Also, there is a hotel in the centre of Henri-Chapelle, it just isn't listed in the article.
-- Wauteurz (talk) 17:28, 26 December 2022 (UTC)

@Ground Zero: Welkenraedt now exists and contains all of the listings that Henri-Chapelle has. I'm assuming that we can speedily redirect this article there?
-- Wauteurz (talk) 12:10, 27 December 2022 (UTC)

Indeed – we can. SHB2000 (talk | contribs | meta) 12:13, 27 December 2022 (UTC)

I agree. Good work. Ground Zero (talk) 12:40, 27 December 2022 (UTC)