Talk:Wisconsin
Add topicI removed the content of the "Understand" section because it was factually incorrect and biased. First, it claimed that "Wisconsin has the nation's most liberal drinking-and-driving laws." The legal limit in Wisconsin, 0.08%, is the same as the majority of states in the U.S., although many others have an even higher limit of 0.1%, and many states have less harsh penalties for first offenses than does Wisconsin. It is incorrect, therefore, to state that Wisconsin's laws are the "most liberal".
Further, the "Understand" section went on to claim that "Wisconsinites do not have a strong independent culture," offering as evidence: "Many root for the Chicago Cubs or Minnesota Twins, for example." This is an unsupported opinion of the author and one with which most Wisconsinites would strongly disagree. Even using sports teams as proxy for culture, the state of Wisconsin proudly supports the Green Bay Packers football team, the Milwaukee Brewers and Bucks baseball and basketball teams, and the various sports teams of the University of Wisconsin. Support for each of these teams far exceeds any pockets of support for Chicago or Minnesota sports teams.
The paragraph went on to say, "They do not speak like Canadians as in the movie Fargo." Fargo was a motion picture set in Northern Minnesota, not in Canada. Regardless, this negative contrast is not a useful one to make, and this blank discussion of regional accents adds nothing for potential visitors.
I am working on some replacement content. [Added in December 2005]
Wisconsin regions
[edit]So, as with most of the United States we'll need to break Wisconsin up into some smaller regions. The official tourism Web site divides the state into three regions -- north, central, and south -- and thence into counties. I think that should probably be fine. Is there any problem with this? --(WT-en) Evan 21:57, 19 Jan 2006 (EST)
- How about this. Seems to be the most popular way of breaking the state into regions, and we might not have to divide them into sub-regions. Any thoughts? -- (WT-en) Fastestdogever 09:35, 11 July 2007 (EDT)
- That looks like a good scheme to me. And this article is becoming a bit of a mess, so I say we go forward with this. --(WT-en) Peter Talk 13:29, 23 September 2007 (EDT)
- I agree. Looks great. (WT-en) OldPine 13:43, 23 September 2007 (EDT)
Here are the existing, ad hoc regions, which should probably all be merged into the appropriate regions in the new scheme:
--(WT-en) Peter Talk 15:40, 23 September 2007 (EDT)
- OK, these are all listed as sub-regions now. (WT-en) OldPine 17:00, 23 September 2007 (EDT)
Wisconsin Brewing
[edit]I changed the previous entry that indicated that Pabst moved their brewery in Milwaukee to St. Louis. That is not true. Pabst closed their Milwaukee brewery (and all of their breweries) and began to contact out the production of their brands, mostly to Miller breweries. Also, the Schlitz brewery no longer exists and hasn't for quite some time. The Schlitz brand is owned by Pabst and is most likely manufactured in Miller breweries on a contract basis. FYI famous national brands brewed in Milwaukee by Miller or by Miller under contract from Pabst include Schlitz, Miller, Pabst, Old Style, Blatz, Old Milwaukee, Stroh, and Hamm's.
- Thanks for the update. Did you work for them? -- (WT-en) Andrew H. (Sapphire) 02:35, 2 November 2006 (EST)
Wisconsin Inns
[edit]I think it'd be great to have all 20+ inns represented by the Wisconsin Inn Association listed in their respective cities in Wikivoyage, but per external links we don't want the link here at the state level. --(WT-en) Evan 22:33, 13 December 2006 (EST)
- Here's the listing, by the way: Bed and Breakfasts of South West Wisconsin Hidden Valleys , Email: info@wisconsin-inns.com Our association represents more then 20 inns in the south west corner of Wisconsin.. Probably good for some data mining. --(WT-en) Evan 22:34, 13 December 2006 (EST)
Guns?
[edit]Is this photo for real? Should we have some comment on Wisconsin gun law here? Pashley (talk) 23:35, 14 January 2014 (UTC)
Alternative banner for this article?
[edit]In the Hebrew Wikivoyage we are currently using this banner instead of the one which is currently used here. Do you think too that this banner would would better than the existing one? ויקיג'אנקי (talk) 02:39, 5 April 2014 (UTC)
- The existing banner is suggestive of something, while the new proposed one could be any city anywhere in the midwest. I'd prefer we kept the existing one. Texugo (talk) 02:45, 5 April 2014 (UTC)
- The existing banner is bad since it could be anywhere. It is not very complimentry to Wisconsin either (it is hinting that Wisconsin is really cold, boring, and that there is nothing much to do there). ויקיג'אנקי (talk) 03:26, 5 April 2014 (UTC)
- More than whether which one is more ubiquitous, my problem with the proposed one is that it's too specific to a certain city rather than reflecting the entire state. I think the current one does a better job of that. PerryPlanet (talk) 04:23, 5 April 2014 (UTC)
- ויקיג'אנקי, I don't dislike the current banner as you do. I think it's a pretty snowy lane. I haven't been to Wisconsin, but I tend to agree with PerryPlanet's reasoning. Your banner would work better as the banner for Milwaukee, except that I like the current banner for that article. Ikan Kekek (talk) 05:24, 5 April 2014 (UTC)
- More than whether which one is more ubiquitous, my problem with the proposed one is that it's too specific to a certain city rather than reflecting the entire state. I think the current one does a better job of that. PerryPlanet (talk) 04:23, 5 April 2014 (UTC)
- The existing banner is bad since it could be anywhere. It is not very complimentry to Wisconsin either (it is hinting that Wisconsin is really cold, boring, and that there is nothing much to do there). ויקיג'אנקי (talk) 03:26, 5 April 2014 (UTC)
- Personally, I don't find either banner to be particularly interesting. The top one is just a snowy backroad and the bottom one is a dull cityscape. If these are the only options, I would prefer the top image, but I don't really like it. ChubbyWimbus (talk) 14:39, 7 April 2014 (UTC)
Map
[edit]Shaundd, what about drawing a more deserving map for this State as you have already done in previously for Oregon? PS I would suggest to use the current standard Wikivoyage design instead of the experimental one used in Oregon, but I don't want to block or ruin your inspiration ;-) so feel free to use the one that you prefer most. --Andyrom75 (talk) 18:37, 25 October 2015 (UTC)
- Hi Andyrom75, I uploaded the new map to Commons tonight -- English and Italian. I don't have time to update the template right now, but will tackle it tomorrow. -Shaundd (talk) 05:30, 29 October 2015 (UTC)
- Thanks a lot for the new map, and very kind of you for preparing also the IT version :-) PS Don't treat me so well, otherwise I could ask you "IT" support for other maps ;-) :-P --Andyrom75 (talk) 08:06, 29 October 2015 (UTC)
- That's funny. If I'm working on a map and the translation is already done (like Wisconsin), it's not difficult to add another language. -Shaundd (talk) 04:29, 31 October 2015 (UTC)
- Thanks a lot for the new map, and very kind of you for preparing also the IT version :-) PS Don't treat me so well, otherwise I could ask you "IT" support for other maps ;-) :-P --Andyrom75 (talk) 08:06, 29 October 2015 (UTC)