Template talk:Climate data

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Justification[edit]

I created this template after visiting the Venice article during the course of the Collaboration of the Month for August 2019 and seeing that someone had copied the values for the English Wikipedia Weather box template into it, where they were accomplishing exactly nothing (save inflating the raw size of an already tragically bloated article). My first instinct was to highlight that whole big block of poopy and satisfyingly tap the Delete key, but luckily my curiosity took hold before I did.

Upon examining how the template rendered on Wikipedia, it struck me that there were indeed some parts of it that would probably be germane to trip planning, especially in light of global warming. Thus I fearlessly embarked on getting the template to work here on Wikivoyage, despite the fact that my only experience with the programming language Lua prior to this was the roughly 90 seconds I spent adding a few plugins to my CudaText settings file last year. After a few hours of fiddling with it, I can't say I'm at all displeased with how it ended up, though I certainly do intend to invest some more time later in the tweaking and polishing phase. I removed the fields that were obviously strictly encyclopedic in nature and since everything that remains is optional to include, I leave it to those brave souls who test it out to use their best judgment on which data points are relevant to the locale of the article. If anything fouls up don't hesitate to ping me here or on my talk page and I'll see what can be done to ameliorate the situation. Oh, and if anyone here possessing some actual facility with Lua is feeling squirrely and so inclined (insert several praying hands emojis here), please feel free to improve on what I've done; you won't be stepping on any toes. (Unless your contribution is to send all this to the "round file," in which case we're headed to the mattresses. #kiddingbutnotreally #dontyucksomeoneelsesyum #wikivoyage4lyfe)

Hopefully this template will be uncontroversial, but I'm starting this discussion to allow for feedback per WV:Using MediaWiki templates#New MediaWiki template proposals. 🐈ogueScholar🗨Talk (My recent mischief) 05:35, 22 August 2019 (UTC)

You are quite bold, I'll grant you that. I think before you go on a crusade and spread this to more articles, you should get support first (e.g. on Pub). The table you added is nice and all, but probably not for a travel guide. We discussed this a year ago, and graphs won over tables as being much more useful/clear for travellers, even if incomplete. Average relative humidity or #sunlight days are IMO pretty much useless (unless it's some extreme, which is not the case in Venice). Also, the table bloats the article 10x more than the original graph, and the colors don't really are too aesthetic either. -- andree.sk(talk) 06:35, 22 August 2019 (UTC)
I, for one, would strongly support this option. Ypsilon (talk) 16:45, 22 August 2019 (UTC)