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Thanks for your contributions to Lexington (Kentucky). -- (WT-en) Ryan • (talk) • 13:23, 30 March 2011 (EDT)

My pleasure. It gave me something to do while I was on vacation there last week. :-) --Peter

Long vowels[edit]

Say, what method are you using to type the long Japanese vowels with a bar over them? (WT-en) texugo 12:14, 23 August 2011 (EDT)

I just use Windows Character Map to get the character and paste it in. It's tedious. :-( Or, if I know the characters are elsewhere in the document, I copy/paste them from there. (WT-en) BigPeteB 12:32, 23 August 2011 (EDT)


Your old WT account has now been merged into your WMF one. Your name now has a small b, which matches your WP account (I think to get the large B back, you would have to do a global account rename). --Peter Talk 19:51, 28 December 2012 (UTC)

Dynamic maps Expedition[edit]

Hello Bigpeteb,

Thanks for your interest in Wikivoyage:Dynamic maps Expedition!

Could you please help by selecting a few articles (places you know), and inserting lat/lon to all restaurants/hotels/see/etc as explained here?

Thanks a lot! Nicolas1981 (talk) 07:29, 30 April 2013 (UTC)

Sure thing! I already did part of Lexington (Kentucky). I could do Atlanta/Midtown as well. I'll see if I can find one or two other articles that would make good test cases. Bigpeteb (talk) 13:58, 30 April 2013 (UTC)
Great work on these two articles, feel free to do cities you don't know as well, using Google or review websites to check whether locations are correct. These articles will be in the initial trial perimeter when Dynamic Maps are deployed :-) Cheers! Nicolas1981 (talk) 06:01, 1 May 2013 (UTC)
Haha, all I did so far was run them through the GeoMap batch updater. When I have more time at home I'll check that the locations are accurate and manually do the ones that the batch updater couldn't locate. Bigpeteb (talk) 14:59, 1 May 2013 (UTC)

New portal implemented[edit]

Thanks for your changes to the /temp version! Feel free to fix anything else there and I'll see if I can sync it. PiRSquared17 (talk) 16:34, 2 May 2013 (UTC)

Wikivoyage:Joke articles/Time travel[edit]

Wikvoyage started early this year.. I note you'd added to the Japan article recently, able to add anything to the Far East section? ShakespeareFan00 (talk) 20:49, 8 March 2015 (UTC)

Et al.[edit]

From an edit summary by you: usually "et al." is for lists of people, and "etc." is for lists of inanimate things

What's your source for this? To my understanding, in Latin "et alii" simply means "and others". I have never seen the claim you made, and I'm pretty skeptical about it.

All the best,

Ikan Kekek (talk) 09:50, 5 March 2017 (UTC)

Nevermind: I just did a web search for "et al usage" and got a bunch of results restricting its usage to a list of people. So the moral of the story is that I went through school with honors and fellowships through the Doctorate without ever knowing or being told about this restriction. I probably never used the abbreviation in a non-standard way in any academic writing, so no-one ever thought to explain that a seemingly all-inclusive Latin expression is reserved for people, by convention. Ikan Kekek (talk) 11:19, 5 March 2017 (UTC)
Haha, no worries Ikan Kekek. I'm glad I could teach you some minor thing today. :-) --Bigpeteb (talk) 15:25, 6 March 2017 (UTC)
 :-) Ikan Kekek (talk) 15:31, 6 March 2017 (UTC)


Regardinging this edit, the Chicago Manual of Style recomends distinguishing between ellipsis within a sentence (three dots) and ellipsis at the end of a sentence (four dots):

Section 13.53 in the Spotlight
When words are left out of a quotation, an ellipsis of three dots (. . .) takes their place. When this works correctly, the reader can skip over the dots and the sentence continues smoothly on the other side.
Quotation 1: “With a sensation of horror . . . I saw at the open window a figure.”
If the first segment of the quotation could be read as a complete sentence (grammatically speaking), a period comes before the ellipsis (for a total of four dots).

As far as "... etc.)." goes, there isn't any need for another full stop after you've already used one full stop:

[1] "never double up periods. If a statement ends with “etc.” the period in the abbreviation does double duty, serving as the full stop to end the sentence."

Regards, Ground Zero (talk) 12:45, 30 November 2018 (UTC)

@Ground Zero: Hmm, thanks for pointing this out.
You're right about the first instance. It can be read as a complete sentence, so an extra period is appropriate. I'll change that one back.
In the second instance, the parentheses affect the rule. The CMOS FAQ for this topic isn't the most clear (and I don't have my copy of CMOS handy as I'm replying). A better Stack Exchange Q&A is [2], which explicitly cites CMOS and other style guides, all of which agree that two periods are necessary: one for the etc. inside the parentheses, and one outside the parentheses to end the sentence. (To use the old grade-school trick: if you deleted the parenthetical, what remains would still need to be a complete sentence, and thus needs a period.) The Wikipedia MOS also agrees with this rule, and an example ending in etc.). is the first example it gives.
(P.S. "Regardinging" isn't a word. That made me LOL when I noticed it just now.) --Bigpeteb (talk) 17:39, 3 December 2018 (UTC)

Thank you[edit]

I wanted to drop you a note to thank you for two things: one, your recent vigilance on English language varieties, and two, your recent additions to Fukuoka. As the one who originally nominated Fukuoka for Destination of the Month a while ago, it's frankly kind of embarrassing to me in retrospect how incomplete the article was at the time of its nomination. Sometimes it takes someone with local familiarity, as you obviously have, to fully illustrate that sort of thing. Anyhow, anything else you can do to add to the article would be hugely appreciated, especially in the realm of adding geo coordinates to listings that currently lack them. -- AndreCarrotflower (talk) 00:51, 24 May 2019 (UTC)

@AndreCarrotflower: Happy to help! I spent half a summer studying in Fukuoka, although that was 15 years ago so I wouldn't say I know the city in too much detail anymore. But between the request for updates for DotM, and some friends having recently visited Fukuoka and re-sparking my interest in the city, I'm happy to contribute what local knowledge I do have. Geocoding listings is not my favorite chore as it's pretty tedious :-/ but I'll definitely have a go at it. --Bigpeteb (talk) 17:27, 24 May 2019 (UTC)

Community Insights Survey[edit]

RMaung (WMF) 14:32, 9 September 2019 (UTC)

Reminder: Community Insights Survey[edit]

RMaung (WMF) 19:13, 20 September 2019 (UTC)

Reminder: Community Insights Survey[edit]

RMaung (WMF) 17:03, 4 October 2019 (UTC)

Working with students[edit]

Thank you for leaving the long message on my students talk page, I may indeed use it for discussion material. The problem here is that said student is one of the 'quiet' people (she never speaks, she chose to work by herself instead of a group like I advised everyone to do), and I don't know if she is super shy or as is not uncommon in classes full of ESLs, her English skills are just low. In all honestly, I doubt she will participate in or enjoy the discussion about this incident, particularly if my hunch is right and she cannot communicate well in English on top of being shy. Sometimes there is no good solution :( --Piotrus (talk) 03:13, 10 October 2019 (UTC)

@Piotrus: Indeed, I know the type. Regardless, I'm happy to contribute. Cheers! --Bigpeteb (talk) 16:23, 10 October 2019 (UTC)

Priority seats in Tokyo[edit]

Just to reply to your comment, I'm not sure there are priority seats in the trains in either Chicago or New York City, so I don't think you can say they are "common" worldwide. The dog2 (talk) 01:49, 31 December 2019 (UTC)

Do you mean priority seating for elderly and disabled people? Then yes, we have those on New York City Transit Authority trains and buses. Ikan Kekek (talk) 02:26, 31 December 2019 (UTC)
Will people actually give them up for the elderly and disabled? The dog2 (talk) 04:46, 31 December 2019 (UTC)
Sometimes. And also for pregnant women and people with really heavy loads or holding children. And on the bus, if someone on a wheelchair comes on, the bus driver tells whoever is sitting in the wheelchair area he chooses for them to get up and move. I presume if they refused, s/he'd call the police if necessary, but I haven't seen anyone refuse. Ikan Kekek (talk) 04:55, 31 December 2019 (UTC)
@The dog2: In any case, it's already pointed out on Japan, so there's no need to duplicate it in Tokyo. Even the note about not talking on phones is redundant, although it doesn't hurt to have a quick reminder. There's also signage in English on Japan's trains and buses for both priority seats and not talking on phones, so we really don't need to bog down a city article with reminders. --Bigpeteb (talk) 18:07, 31 December 2019 (UTC)

New York City[edit]

Please do not fully revert. I want there to be a mention that in Staten Island there is no subway system. So please revert that edit. Thanks. 2600:387:5:805:0:0:0:6A 21:01, 20 May 2020 (UTC)

The better place to discuss this is on Talk:New York City. I've copied your question and will give a response there. --Bigpeteb (talk) 21:34, 20 May 2020 (UTC)


Hiya, with regard to this edit summary ALL CAPS comes across as angry shouting, especially when you're correcting somebody. If you want to emphasise parts of an edit summary, I recommend using asterisks *like this*. It's not a rule or anything, but something to think about. Best wishes, ThunderingTyphoons! (talk) 17:48, 23 May 2020 (UTC)

@ThunderingTyphoons!: Yeah, I should have done so. Does it actually display it with different formatting if you use asterisks like that, or is that markup for human eyes only? --Bigpeteb (talk) 18:19, 25 May 2020 (UTC)
No different formatting, unfortunately; it's just for the eyes as you said. You could equally use tildes or underscores, I guess.--ThunderingTyphoons! (talk) 18:25, 25 May 2020 (UTC)