Wikivoyage:Discover

Here we collaborate on future discover facts that are featured on the Main Page (and on the Discover page).

Criteria

• At a minimum, [[link]] the article that contains the fact in question. The fact must be taken from a Wikivoyage article.
• '''Boldface''' the fact of interest.
• Linked articles don't need to be perfect, but preference should be given to those with a status of "usable" or higher.
• Relevant images are required for one in every three facts. They should be placed above the fact in question, with the following formatting:

[[Image:imagename|right|200px|description]]
The interesting fact linked to this image goes here.

• When looking for fun facts to add, Special:Random (also accessible in the left sidebar) which displays a random Wikivoyage article can be a useful tool. As many articles unfortunately are short on content, you may want to hit the link multiple times while opening up new articles in new tabs.

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St Peter and Paul's Cathedral (interior pictured) in Brandenburg an der Havel is considered the "cradle" of Brandenburg and "mother" of all churches in the state. Planning to become a digital nomad? Consider what internet access, phone service, travel insurance, and perhaps health insurance, you will need. El Picacho Park overlooks Tegucigalpa, and takes its name from the huge statue of Jesus Christ, also called "Cristo el Picacho", which is visible from almost any point in the city.

• The content in Template:Discover is automatically updated on a daily basis and each Discover entry is displayed for three days.
• If the box above is empty, it means that the template ran out of entries. If this happens you can add new entries from the nominations below. Remove entries from the nominations list as you add them to the template.
• If you are unsure about how it works, feel free to try out things in the Discover sandbox first.
• When an entry isn't shown on the Main Page any longer, it should be added to the Discover archive, not just deleted from the template.

Nominations

Add your entries to the end of this list. Do not leave any space or other commentary between entries. However, feel free to rearrange the list, because geographic variety in what's displayed is good (e.g. if the next three items are all from Europe, it's good to intersperse something from somewhere else).

• St. Michael and All Angels Church (pictured) in Blantyre is described as the first permanent church between the Zambezi and the Nile.
• There are many things that can affect your health when you're flying.
• Acadia National Park is one of the smaller national parks in the U.S., yet it attracts around 4 million visitors per year.

• Bridgnorth is built on two levels, with the upper level dominated by the remains of a medieval castle keep (pictured) which leans at an angle greater than the leaning tower of Pisa.
• The ancient Olympic Games are traditionally said to have first been held in Ancient Greece in 776 BC.
• Novosibirsk has a USSR museum with different Soviet objects from portraits of leaders to vacuum cleaners.

• Kurusu no Umi (pictured), or the sea cross, is a place outside Hyuga in which the ocean wore the stone away perpendicularly forming a natural cross shape.
• Hannoversch Münden is the half-timbered jewel at the confluence of three rivers.
• Despite the Rain City reputation, in fact Seattle has less annual rainfall than most cities east of the Rocky Mountains.

• About 1/6th of Norway can be seen on clear days from Mount Gausta (pictured) in Rjukan.
• While the lighthouse building of Mazatlan is quite low, it sits on a high cliff, making it the highest in the world.
• In the Fells Point neighborhood in Baltimore you can retrace Edgar Allan Poe's last steps.

• In Pisac Archeological Park (pictured) you can see see superb examples of the Inca obsession with building on high ridges and peaks.
• Cecil Rhodes' private carriage is on display at the Bulawayo Railway Museum.
• Litang is one of the highest-located towns in the world, at an elevation of 4000 m (13,123 ft).

• El Ghriba Synagogue (interior pictured) in Djerba is only a bit more than 100 years old, but it serves a Jewish community that has been in Djerba for at least 2,000 years and possibly as long as 3,000 years.
• The Orkney Islands have a remarkable collection of standing stones, early settlements and burial cairns, inscribed on the UNESCO World Heritage List.
• Latin, the language of the Roman Empire, has had a large influence on European languages.

• Clarion Hotel Post (pictured) in Gothenburg occupies the former central post building.
• Scranton has a museum dedicated to escape artist Harry Houdini.
• The tomb of Kalevipoeg, the legendary hero of the Estonian epic, is supposedly somewhere near Kiviõli, and people have been digging up the ground around town attempting to find the grave and its unimaginable treasures.

• The highly photogenic rice field Maruyama Senmaida (pictured) in Kumano is planted by hand every year by many of the town's residents.
• Tirunelveli is famous for its halwa sweet, especially from a stall named iruttu kadai ("dark shop") operating in nighttime and hardly lit up.
• Most science-related destinations are based on popular science.

• Inside the Seville cathedral (pictured), an ornate canopy and statue marks the final resting place of Christopher Columbus.
• Unlike other cities in the Gulf, notably in the UAE and Qatar, Muscat does not have an ultramodern skyline.
• Valle de Guadalupe is the premier wine producing region of Mexico.

• The Nepali national meal is daal-bhaat-tarkaari (pictured) – spiced lentils poured over boiled rice, and served with tarkari: vegetables cooked with spices.
• Château-d'Œx has a museum showcasing the history of hot-air balloons.
• Named after a French count, La Perouse was where one of the first European settlements in Australia.

• The Holocaust Memorial at Kennedy Plaza (pictured) in Long Beach, New York was financed and designed by Holocaust survivor Dr. Stanley R. Robbin.
• On a trip abroad you may encounter interesting soft drinks that you’ve never heard of before — do try them out.
• The Thêatre Populaire de Koudougou is an open-air, stadium-style theatre.

• According to UNESCO, the Forbidden City (pictured) is the largest collection of ancient wooden buildings in the world.
• In Hamilton, Ontario you can visit the Canadian Football Hall of Fame.
• Awajishima has some claim to being the oldest settled area in Japan.

• The ceiling of St. Michael's Church (outside pictured) in Hildesheim features the unique "Jessebom", a painted family tree of Jesus-Christ.
• Buddhism reached China via the Silk Road and Dunhuang is one of the more important Buddhist sites on that route.

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• I've self-reverted an item I'd added about an ice hotel as novelty architecture. I see nothing in Wikivoyage talk:Discover#Overlinking that should prohibit me from linking both novelty architecture and the article about the town. Comments? K7L (talk) 02:26, 18 December 2017 (UTC)

Yes. As you said, use as many relevant links as there are. Ikan Kekek (talk) 04:26, 18 December 2017 (UTC)

It seems I have misinterpreted what the consensus was (or rather wasn't; the discussion doesn't seem to have come to any conclusion). This being the case, I apologise for interfering with your edits and citing a consensus that doesn't exist.

However, I do agree with Ypsi's original concerns that the entry should generally only link to the page where the fact is mentioned; in nearly all cases that is the destination / travel topic that is the entry's subject. Novelty architecture (as an article covering an entire field of study) is only tenuously related to this one specific ice hotel in Sweden. It's a bit like linking to Historical travel (very broad and general topic) in an entry about Herculaneum (a specific Roman archaeological site).

But we should really try to conclude that discussion one way or the other. --ThunderingTyphoons! (talk) 10:55, 18 December 2017 (UTC)

What if the fact is mentioned in more than one place? For instance, Chicken AK being named for ptarmigan is mentioned in both the town's article and places with unusual names. Likewise, it would make sense for the "ice hotel" concept to be mentioned both in their host cities and in the novelty architecture article. K7L (talk) 11:17, 18 December 2017 (UTC)

Well, ice hotels in general, and the specific hotel in question are both mentioned on novelty architecture, like you say. There are lots of cases like this where the same or similar information appears on more than one page. But the discover fact is about this hotel in particular (it being the very first of its kind), so that's the article we should link to, in my opinion. There could be a future discover entry specifically for the novelty architecture article, though, no problem. --ThunderingTyphoons! (talk) 11:48, 18 December 2017 (UTC)

The novelty architecture is the whole point of the item; the bit about "being first" was merely an arbitrary line drawn to avoid having to list all of the other hotels of the same genre - which are too numerous to fit in a twenty-word blurb. K7L (talk) 12:44, 18 December 2017 (UTC)

I still think we should link to just one article, the article where the fact appears. If we are to link to several articles, like the factoids in Wikipedia's Did you know (upon which our Discover section is based), I'd say we should also write the name of the article where the fact appears in bold letters, just like they do. --ϒpsilon (talk) 14:25, 18 December 2017 (UTC)

The facts do appear in places with unusual names (for Chicken) and novelty architecture (for the ice hotel). K7L (talk) 02:47, 19 December 2017 (UTC)

In these cases I still see the destination is the "main article" which should be highlighted somehow. It's Jukkasjärvi that has become famous because of the ice hotel representing Novelty architecture, not the other way around (ie. novelty architecture would still be around if they had built it in Gällivare instead, or not at all). In the same way, Chicken is famous because it has a funny name. --ϒpsilon (talk) 10:50, 19 December 2017 (UTC)

If the rest of you think it's best to have only one link per entry, I'll accede to that. Ikan Kekek (talk) 10:57, 19 December 2017 (UTC)

That's for the best. We can still have a fact relating to novelty architecture in the future, whereas linking two or more articles in one fact is basically using those articles up for the foreseeable future, in that we don't like repeat coverage of the same articles within a period of time. --ThunderingTyphoons! (talk) 11:26, 19 December 2017 (UTC)

I believe the concerns about duplication are that we don't want the same fact twice, not that we are trying to prevent two facts about the same destination from appearing at different times. This was raised at Wikivoyage talk:Discover#Repeating Discoveries and Same-type Discoveries before the WT split, and I think there was one we'd removed the better part of a year ago here as the same fact was mistakenly submitted twice, one month apart. K7L (talk) 13:34, 20 December 2017 (UTC)

We can certainly feature a single destination as many times as we like but I think there should be a couple of months between them at least. Intentionally featuring the same fact again is something we should avoid, though if this occasionally happens by accident (maybe because there have been so long time since it was featured that nobody remembers) I don't think it's a huge problem. For instance, the fact we had a few weeks back of Michigan's map resembling two hands was featured in October 2015 with a different wording. ϒpsilon (talk) 08:34, 21 December 2017 (UTC)

I'd prefer not to feature the same fact twice, or have three facts from the same country appear in the same three-day interval (like The [[Aleutian Islands]] of Alaska are the easternmost U.S. point", "[[Texas]] is the second-largest state, behind Alaska", "[[Wyoming]] is the second least-populous, behind Alaska")... unless this were April 1 or some occasion where the pattern is the joke. Conversely, I can't see a fact on big things in Australia being precluded because a fact on ice hotels had already run previously; both are technically novelty architecture. K7L (talk)

• The 2½-mile boardwalk is the central focus of Ocean City's attractions.

This is a disambig page – which Ocean City is it?

New Jersey, it's in the lead. I opened the three articles and searched the for the sentence, that took a fifth of the time writing this reply. Ypsilon (talk) 10:23, 30 July 2023 (UTC)

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The following calendar-related items are "ready-to-go" criteria-wise and should be moved to the main queue at a date appropriate to the trivia featured:

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