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Co-founder of Wikivoyage, has root access on wikivoyage.org so would probably mess around with the database if he wasn't given admin status. Did the first drafts of all the policy and guidelines as well as the help pages. -- (WT-en) Evan 08:56, 4 Aug 2003 (PDT)
- Granted self admin status without nomination procedure in egregious abuse of authority. -- (WT-en) Evan 08:56, 4 Aug 2003 (PDT)
Co-founder of Wikivoyage. Has sudo access on wikivoyage.org, and if we didn't give her access she'd probably scrub the harddrive. Has significant experience as a travel writer and use of other Web travel sites. -- (WT-en) Evan 08:56, 4 Aug 2003 (PDT)
- Granted admin status without nomination procedure in abominable nepotistic frenzy. -- (WT-en) Evan 08:56, 4 Aug 2003 (PDT)
Worked on several collaborative and community projects, including the FIX BBS (one of the oldest functional BBSes in Europe), the GNOME project, and other free software. Contributor to Wikipedia, list of contributions at http://www.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joakim_Ziegler , likes Wikis a lot, dedicated to free content, strong opinions on quality (this might be seen as a bad thing). Trying to show that I'm worth my salt in the Mexico City article. Programmer (Python, also PHP, C, and a few others) with an interest in large-scale web-fronted data storage systems, willing to and interested in doing code work too with time. --(WT-en) JZ 20:58, 7 Aug 2003 (-0500)
- Joakim: You have impeccable credentials and I think you'd be a valuable addition. I think one question I have is how well you understand the Project:goals and non-goals and the Project:policies and guidelines, and how much you agree with them. What are we missing? What needs to be changed? I'm not looking for ideological goose-stepping, but I would like to know that you share in general our overall vision for Wikivoyage. -- (WT-en) Evan 09:42, 11 Aug 2003 (PDT)
- Let's see. I generally don't have any big disagreements with the policies as they are now. If anything, they might be a little too easy to agree with, that is, not quite strict/specific enough, but that's probably expected to grow with the community, and I think that that's an appropriate process. I think that also a lot of policies and so on can be made after the fact; when a number of pages of a certain type exists, it'll be easy to see what works and what doesn't, and to set that doewn as policy/guidelines. I agree very much with the goals and non-goals, (and the slippery slopes), this is a project whose principal danger might be to lose focus and have people writing about everything. I can't really say that I see things that are missing quite yet, because I think the project is so young that it's hard to see where people will want to go (and where it's desirable to prevent them from going). I have a relatively laidback idea of how things should be done, in general. Things work themselves out, especially on wikis. Hm. I wonder if this answer is specific enough, let me know if it isn't, and I'll give it another try. --(WT-en) JZ
- No, that sounds like the right idea to me. Thanks for answering a kind of leading question. -- (WT-en) Evan 21:02, 11 Aug 2003 (PDT)
- Let's see. I generally don't have any big disagreements with the policies as they are now. If anything, they might be a little too easy to agree with, that is, not quite strict/specific enough, but that's probably expected to grow with the community, and I think that that's an appropriate process. I think that also a lot of policies and so on can be made after the fact; when a number of pages of a certain type exists, it'll be easy to see what works and what doesn't, and to set that doewn as policy/guidelines. I agree very much with the goals and non-goals, (and the slippery slopes), this is a project whose principal danger might be to lose focus and have people writing about everything. I can't really say that I see things that are missing quite yet, because I think the project is so young that it's hard to see where people will want to go (and where it's desirable to prevent them from going). I have a relatively laidback idea of how things should be done, in general. Things work themselves out, especially on wikis. Hm. I wonder if this answer is specific enough, let me know if it isn't, and I'll give it another try. --(WT-en) JZ
- Oh, one other thing: the current administrators do most of their collaboration using LRC protocol. We're a little worried that with your location in Mexico your participation would be heavily lagged. Any comment? -- (WT-en) Evan 14:19, 12 Aug 2003 (PDT)
- I appreciate that concern, I know how convenient that can be. I'm a very compulsive user of both mail and other online comms, but of course that is still lagged compared to LRC. I can't really do much to alleviate the concern, really, other than say that you'll run into this problem sooner or later, LRC doesn't really scale too well. So it's more a question of if you want to deal with it now or later, I think. Projects like Wikipedia have mailing lists to complement the talk pages and so on, for working out more general discussions, that might be a good idea for Wikivoyage too... (My mailer is a lot more convenient to discuss in than a wiki, sad but true, still). -- (WT-en) JZ 08:48, 12 Aug 2003 (CST)
- It was mostly a joke, and quite a bad joke at that. But you've reminded me about doing a mailing list, and I'll set one up tonight. Look for info on Wikivoyage news in the not-so-distant future. -- (WT-en) Evan 19:30, 12 Aug 2003 (PDT)
- I appreciate that concern, I know how convenient that can be. I'm a very compulsive user of both mail and other online comms, but of course that is still lagged compared to LRC. I can't really do much to alleviate the concern, really, other than say that you'll run into this problem sooner or later, LRC doesn't really scale too well. So it's more a question of if you want to deal with it now or later, I think. Projects like Wikipedia have mailing lists to complement the talk pages and so on, for working out more general discussions, that might be a good idea for Wikivoyage too... (My mailer is a lot more convenient to discuss in than a wiki, sad but true, still). -- (WT-en) JZ 08:48, 12 Aug 2003 (CST)
- I endorse Joakim Ziegler as a Wikivoyage admin. -- (WT-en) Evan 19:35, 12 Aug 2003 (PDT)
- Ditto-- though, if you are interested in LRC we could arrange for you to have a rotation on dishes & dinner (just kidding... we seem to do that a lot you'll notice).(WT-en) Majnoona
- IT IS SO. -- (WT-en) Evan 05:57, 14 Aug 2003 (PDT)
Karen's a Wikipedian who's been working on Wikivoyage for a while now. She's done a lot of good work on Australia and travel destinations there and around the world. Question for Karen that's the same as for JZ: how well do you think you understand our goals and non-goals? What about the policies and guidelines? Is there anything you disagree with strongly? Anything you think we're missing? -- (WT-en) Evan 06:11, 14 Aug 2003 (PDT)
- Firstly, thanks for considering me for nomination. I think the travelwiki is a great idea and I'm glad to be working on it. You've thought about what you want it to be and I pretty much agree with it. What we're aiming for is a comprehensive but not exhaustive guide, focusing on information which is NOT necessarily found in other places and which will be useful to people planning visits, or actually in the areas they are reading about - insider information if possible. True? What we DON'T want is an advertising catalogue. (WT-en) KJ 17:49, 14 Aug 2003 (PDT)
- Please register my vote for Karen, even though it has no status(WT-en) Tiles 00:31, 15 Aug 2003 (PDT)
- So, I'm not really sure what to do here. (WT-en) Maj and I were on extended vacation for two weeks after Karen's nomination, and somehow I forgot to give my thumbs up. I think everyone did. But it's been more than 7 days, and I think this nomination must be closed. I'm going to start a new one, because that's bogus. -- (WT-en) Evan 17:46, 4 Sep 2003 (PDT)
I'm nominating her for all the reasons listed above, as well as for the fact that her nomination lapsed by accident rather than from lack of interest. -- (WT-en) Evan 17:47, 4 Sep 2003 (PDT)
- I endorse KJ as a Wikivoyage admin. -- (WT-en) Evan 17:48, 4 Sep 2003 (PDT)
- No problem whatsoever with Karen becoming an admin. (WT-en) D.D. 23:05, 8 Sep 2003 (PDT)
- Thank you! I was feeling all hurt and rejected... not! I know it's hard to get anything much done in the way of admin when there's such a small user base. But I'm pleased to see that it's growing by the day! Which suggests that the word is gradually spreading, and soon more admins will be needed to keep up with the chaos that new users inevitably cause while they're learning the ropes (hint hint) If you appoint me I promise not to abuse my powers and to do my best to help out as needed. (WT-en) KJ 19:39, 4 Sep 2003 (PDT)
- Yeah, well, we obviously need admins for when Maj and I are out goofin' off in the desert. -- (WT-en) Evan 07:17, 9 Sep 2003 (PDT)
- Sorry I didn't get back to this! I thought you were already Admin. I endores you!(WT-en) Majnoona
- and I think that's a full quota. Yay! Thank you guys... :) (WT-en) KJ
- ...and the db has been updated. Karen, you're now an admin. Finally! -- (WT-en) Evan 08:27, 13 Sep 2003 (PDT)
- and I think that's a full quota. Yay! Thank you guys... :) (WT-en) KJ
Dhum Dhum has been a user for months, and has been working hard on articles of all types. He gives insightful comments to most articles, encourages other users, and seems to "get" what we're trying to do. He is also a frequent contributor. DD, what do you think about becoming an Admin? -- (WT-en) Evan 09:19, 6 Nov 2003 (PST)
- I hearby give my "ditto". (WT-en) Majnoona
- What an honour - thank you very much for the nomination! I believe the admin package contains 6 months paid travel per year, doesn't it? ;-) No, seriously, I do like Wikivoyage and what it stands for a lot and I want it to become a travel authority on the web. For travellers. By travellers. If you guys are convinced that I can help Wikivoyage as an admin, then I'll gladly accept. Now we'll just have to see if the rest of you agree ;-) (WT-en) D.D. 09:44, 6 Nov 2003 (PST)
- OK, I give my endorsement, too. Now we have to wait seven days to see if Karen or Joakim are going to show up with the secret evidence that proves you shouldn't be an admin. By the way, if any non-admins want to throw in their endorsement, feel free. It's a nice time to give DD some well-deserved praise. -- (WT-en) Evan 09:57, 6 Nov 2003 (PST)
- Sure, I'll throw in my endorsement! Dhum Dhum does indeed make substantial and positive contributions around here. My only question to all of you doing great work, is: how do you find the time to keep up? There's a lot more editting going on now (which is a good thing, of course ...) (WT-en) CL 23:06, 6 Nov 2003 (PST)
- Endorsed, good candidate. (WT-en) Joakim 17:01, 6 Nov 2003 (CST)
- OK, well, it's done. Welcome to the club, DD! -- (WT-en) Evan 10:12, 14 Nov 2003 (PST)
- Thanks for the welcome! Is there an oath I should take, saying "I do solemnly swear..." or something? Anyways, let's build this thing called "Wikivoyage" into something travellers can't do without! (WT-en) DhDh 12:57, 14 Nov 2003 (PST)