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Andrew is a great Wikivoyage editor, with an excellent contribution history in his wake. He's been very active at both combating vandalism and contributing to policy discussions as well as editing our articles themselves. With that in mind, I think he's very worthy of the WV-brand mop and bucket. --Nick talk 03:38, 13 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]

WV is at a fortunate point right now. It has been able to grow over the last couple of years to an extent that it is demonstrably a superior offering in terms of both content and technical execution. More recently its Google page rankings have improved a great deal and it can become a leading travel guide for the web.
It does however have organizational issues in terms of consensus building towards content and policies. Although there are no easy answers, the community is proving itself strong enough to ask the difficult questions of itself now. Ideally the resolution handling groundwork needs laying now so that we can comfortably scale to double the number of contributors should they appear.
I believe that WV could also improve greatly by growing content in the regions of Africa and South America. It would be great to promote some outreach to potential contributors in those regions. This might involve greater interaction when such contributors work on an article for a short while. China is also a huge country with high traveler potential that seems to get relatively little attention from local contributors, and I know from living here that the Chinese will make a huge impact on world travel in the coming years. Andrewssi2 (talk) 12:03, 13 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]
IMO, this kind of optimistic yet pragmatic attitude is exactly what WV needs. -- AndreCarrotflower (talk) 22:32, 13 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]
  • Strong support. I have had the pleasure of working closely with Andrew on a number of contentious issues of late, and I can personally attest to the fact that he knows his stuff and is worthy of our trust. He is an asset to the Wikivoyage community already and would similarly be an asset to our admin team. -- AndreCarrotflower (talk) 06:40, 13 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support If Andrew's willing, I think he's an excellent candidate. JuliasTravels (talk) 11:22, 13 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support — I thought you're admin already. I appreciate you were helping us at Wikivoyage:User ban nominations as an regular user. --Saqib (talk) 11:33, 13 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support to this trustworthy contributor. You will be a valuable member of our janitorial team! Danapit (talk) 12:19, 13 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support - A very good choice. Texugo (talk) 14:09, 13 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support. I've actually thought of nominating him for some time, but had held off on nominating anyone while issues like consensus and when and why to block problematic users were thrashed out. However, Andrew has helped thrash out these issues, and since he's willing to act as an admin, I think we should welcome his offer and take him up on it. Ikan Kekek (talk) 01:20, 14 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]
  • 'Support. I've thought about this for a few days now, and this is where my !vote falls. I was quite troubled by the candidate's push to rangeblock an entire ISP, as that would have caused significant damage to the site. But in the end, the candidate has generally been reasonable, and I believe this would be a net positive, especially per Ikan. --Rschen7754 18:42, 15 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support, since any misgivings about being overly quick to "hang 'em high" were allayed by this response. (I reserve the right to remind him of it later). He also wrote there that he had "the relevant technical skill set to create Spambot rules" and I do think we need to start preparing now for the deluge that has been inundating Wikitravel for some while... --118.93nzp (talk) 20:49, 15 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Time to flip the bit. --Saqib (talk) 11:05, 30 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Result: Nomination successful. -- Ryan • (talk) • 16:46, 30 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Jamie is responsible for a great number of excellent contributions on Wikivoyage, combined with a proven track record of dealing with policy discussions and vandalism. As a fellow Brit, he's been particularly helpful when I've tried to make improvements to our articles about the United Kingdom. I believe he'd make an excellent addition to the janitorial team. --Nick talk 19:36, 13 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]

  • Question: what do you think is the state of Wikivoyage? Where do you think the project should be going, what problems need to be addressed, etc. ? --Rschen7754 19:54, 13 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support — Although I never actually noticed Jamie in policy discussions but I still believe he would be a good addition to our admin team. --Saqib (talk) 20:01, 13 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]
  • Hmm. I'm seeing a fairly impressive contribution history in mainspace, but I agree with Saqib that there's not been active participation in policy discussions up to this point. I'm not going to oppose this nomination outright, but before I can support it I would need to see a demonstration that the user is familiar with Wikivoyage policies. -- AndreCarrotflower (talk) 20:27, 13 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Doesn't a user's good contributions in main namespace articles depicts user familiarity with WV policies? Jamie contributions so far clearly shows that xe's familiar with our policies. --Saqib (talk) 20:35, 13 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]
"Policy" encompasses a lot of different things, some of which can be sussed out by work in mainspace, others which are best learned through interaction with other members of the community in discussions on policy pages. For instance, knowing how to properly write for Wikivoyage, or even knowing what to look for in eliminating vandalism, etc., wouldn't help a user very much in making a policy-informed argument on a page like, for instance, vfd. That being the case, I don't want to assume what Jamie's level of expertise may be in any aspect of policy. It may very well be that s/he has indeed read some of our policy pages or otherwise familiarized him/herself with those types of policies that can't be intuited from simple content contributions. What I'd really like to see before I register a vote of either yea or nay is some feedback from the user so that some of these blanks can be filled in. -- AndreCarrotflower (talk) 22:11, 13 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]
  • Comment ThunderingTyphoons! has made great contributions, but I would like him to please make his case for why he believes he would be more valuable as an admin than by continuing in his current capacity as an excellent autopatroller user. I am neither opposing nor supporting the nomination at the moment but would just like some more information. Ikan Kekek (talk) 01:20, 14 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]
  • Not yet. The user's mainspace contributions are greatly appreciated and I hope they will continue, but the lack of contributions in policy discussions, and the lack of response to concerns raised in this nomination, seem to indicate to me that at this time it would be better to hold off on pushing this nomination forward. If the user is simply on vacation or for some other reason hasn't had time to reply then that obviously changes this response, but given the silence since this nomination was made a week ago and the concerns raised about familiarity with site policy I would be uncomfortable supporting this nomination at this time. -- Ryan • (talk) • 00:43, 20 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Comment: The candidate has demonstrated at Talk:United_Kingdom#British_or_American_quotation_marks his ability to discuss civilly and productively "policy". --118.93nzp (talk) 21:16, 20 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]
What do you mean by "O edits in namespace"? The namespace totals in the linked chart seem to total 570. Ikan Kekek (talk) 01:20, 20 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]
0 edits in the Wikivoyage: namespace, that is. --Rschen7754 01:20, 20 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Noting that I would likely support in the future with some additional experience in sitewide policy discussions. --Rschen7754 19:53, 22 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]
  • Tentative support: the fact that this editor beavers away and accepts policy without dispute, may actually be a "good thing" if we are genuine about this being a janitor's role rather than a police position. This editor hasn't been around for a week or so since he was alerted to this nomination and the fact that he writes that he is not "...some kind of fame- and power-hungry narcissist..." may make a refreshing change. --118.93nzp (talk) 01:49, 20 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]
  • Not yet. While I value Jamie's contributions a lot and also Nick's opinion, I agree that I haven't seen much of contributions from Jamie in policy discussions, so I find it difficult to judge his degree of familiarity with our polices. This makes me saying not yet right now. This might be a little unfair, because I don't think that every admin must necessarily discuss policies, but it is one way to show one's readiness to become an admin, I guess. As I work in different WV areas, I haven't cooperated with Jamie yet. 118.93nzp showed examples of Jamie's productive way of discussion. I have a gut feeling Jamie is on a good way to become an admin in a near future. Danapit (talk) 12:04, 22 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Result: Not yet. -- Ryan • (talk) • 03:21, 5 February 2014 (UTC)[reply]

I'd like to nominate WOSlinker for administratorship on Wikivoyage. WOSlinker has been with us since 18 January 2013 and has done quite a bit of Wikignomish work to keep our articles in line with our policies concerning layout and manual of style. WOSlinker has also demonstrated the ability to work well with and communicate with others, especially in the technical area of Module/Template coding, and has held administrator rights on the English Wikipedia since 25 August 2010. A stellar addition to the Wikivoyage administration team. TeleComNasSprVen (talk) 20:42, 9 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Support. WOSlinker has proven him-/herself with a large amount of extremely valuable work. If s/he feels that having admin tools will help him/her work more smoothly and effectively, I'm happy for him/her to be given them. Ikan Kekek (talk) 20:53, 9 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Support If this bot super productive fellow Voyager would like to have administrative tools to become even more productive then why not. Especially as WOSlinker also already has experience of adminship at Pedia. ϒpsilon (talk) 21:02, 9 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]

  • Support not only for his abilities here, but from what I've seen of his work on the English Wikipedia for years. --Rschen7754 21:03, 9 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]
  • Comment — While I truly admire User:WOSlinker contributions (general maintenance) but I'm sorry for not being supportive to this nomination until WOSlinker start contributing content as well. Otherwise WOSlinker is doing great and could be great admin too. --Saqib (talk) 21:04, 9 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]
    • I have done some, although I'd admit that there has not been a lot. The general maintenance that I've been doing is starting to draw to a close, or at least a reduced level as a lot of the "easier" (for me) tidy up work is nearly done. So I have been thinking about what to look at next. While there will still be some tidying up that I'll be doing, I've also been looking at adding stuff to see in the UK and there's a list of about 380 places on english-heritage.org.uk Doing an exteral links search shows that only about 70 of those places are listed here, so I'm going to add the rest and also update the existing ones. -- WOSlinker (talk) 22:15, 9 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]
In that case, here's my Support vote for you. --Saqib (talk) 11:33, 11 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]
You're courting a userban with this behavior. -- AndreCarrotflower (talk) 06:32, 11 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]

14+ days since the nominations and no Oppose votes. ϒpsilon (talk) 10:56, 24 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Result: Nomination successful. -- Ryan • (talk) • 14:46, 24 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]

I nominate Saqib (contributions) to get his admin tools back. Most of you undoubtedly know that Saqib was an admin, and it wouldn't surprise me if many of you believe he still is. He is a gracious and extremely helpful and motivated person. One time, he let a confrontation get to him and I was one of the people who felt at that time that it was necessary for him to lose his admin status over that incident. Since then, his behavior has been exemplary, and he has continued to do a lot to improve and even promote this site. In addition, he has posted great photos to Commons for articles on places in Pakistan, and quite a number of them have been honored as "Valued images." He is a diligent mapmaker, is happy to handle the changeover of featured articles on the front page when User:AndreCarrotflower is unavailable, and is in many ways a go-to guy for all kinds of useful tasks. But there are things he can't do right now, like block vandals and spammers, which would help the site. I think Saqib has amply earned the return of his admin tools, and he has agreed to resume being an admin if we so choose. What say you all? Ikan Kekek (talk) 12:07, 12 May 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, it was my fault that I had stepped on toes when not meaning to. But anyhow, I've learnt from my mistake and I'll try not to get too emotionally attached with conflicts here. I'll seek to be careful and ensure you to always act with consideration in future. --Saqib (talk) 21:18, 12 May 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you for your response. I can support your nomination, but do understand that you may be watched closely for a time. (Not by me, though.) Powers (talk) 18:06, 13 May 2014 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support Powers question was appropriate, and Saqib response has been in both words and actions. --Inas (talk) 23:17, 12 May 2014 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support - About 5 weeks ago we had some page-move vandalism. Saqib acted promptly and did his best to fix it by moving the pages back, but because he did not have admin tools he was unable to move them without leaving redirects from rubbish pages, which required double-handling as other admins had to mop them up. We need Saqib to have the mop again, IMO. Nurg (talk) 08:46, 13 May 2014 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support I believe Saqib has learned and grown since that time and has done a lot of work in the meantime to prove his value. ChubbyWimbus (talk) 12:42, 13 May 2014 (UTC)[reply]
  • Strong support. The word I think best describes Saqib is "prolific". Not only is he, pound for pound, the best content contributor this community has, but he's also constantly hard at work Wikignoming and, during his first stint as admin, was among our most active. The proof of the pudding is that even after he lost the admin tools, his participation in the day-to-day behind-the-scenes aspects of the project barely abated. As Ikan pointed out, he's always game to update DotM when I'm out of town (and sometimes when I'm not!), as Nurg pointed out, in spite of the fact that he didn't have access to the tools he was still front and center in the cleanup effort after the recent page-move vandalism spree, and he was instrumental in the development of the latest iteration of the Main Page - among many, many other examples. A lesser contributor may have let his hurt feelings drive him away from the project, which leads me to my next point: his unfailingly collegial and cooperative attitude is just what the doctor ordered in a community where strong and divergent opinions have often led to fractiousness. -- AndreCarrotflower (talk) 00:41, 14 May 2014 (UTC)[reply]
  • Strong support no doubt about it. --Andyrom75 (talk) 07:22, 14 May 2014 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support Yes of course Travel Doc James (talk · contribs · email) 08:55, 14 May 2014 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support Gobbler (talk) 17:06, 14 May 2014 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support Lkcl it (Talk) 07:41, 18 May 2014 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support - Just how could anyone possibly say no? We all know that Saqib is doing splendid and valuable work here every day both when it comes to the articles themselves as well as more administrative stuff. ϒpsilon (talk) 17:06, 20 May 2014 (UTC)[reply]
  • Result: Nomination successful. Powers (talk) 14:34, 28 May 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Many thanks to all those who participated in my RfA. I am deeply humbled and honoured by your trust. --Saqib (talk) 14:40, 28 May 2014 (UTC)[reply]

User:Texugo (for bureaucrat)

Currently LtPowers and I are the only active bureaucrats, and I'm going to be traveling for an extended period later this year. While the workload on bureaucrats is generally very low, we really should have at least two active at all times in order to handle renames, WT contribution merges, and admin promotions, so per Wikivoyage talk:Bureaucrats#Revisited I'm nominating Texugo. He's been an active contributor and admin for years, has the required technical knowledge to deal with issues like renames (see Wikivoyage:Maintenance panel for an example of his technical handiwork), and is definitely trustworthy and competent enough to handle the job. -- Ryan • (talk) • 02:03, 18 May 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Result: Nomination successful. -- Ryan • (talk) • 04:55, 3 June 2014 (UTC)[reply]

As you can see from his contributions and the list of activities and areas of contribution on his user page, Traveler100 has participated in a wide range of fields on this site, from policy discussions to organizational discussions to content creation, in the course of thousands of posts since 24 December, 2012. He has expressed willingness to serve as an admin, and I think it's clear he can be trusted not to abuse admin tools. I appreciate his contributions to the site and believe that he would be an excellent addition to the administrative staff. What do you all think? Ikan Kekek (talk) 07:12, 6 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]

It's been over 14 days with nary an objection. Could a steward please flip the switch? Ikan Kekek (talk) 07:09, 21 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]

No need to call in a steward (and they wouldn't do it anyway because we have bureaucrats). I've asked before for everyone to please have patience when it comes to these user rights; we're not on at all hours of the day, and sometimes it takes us a day or two to check in on the nominations page. There's no need to call us out every time we're 12 or 24 hours late. Powers (talk) 15:41, 21 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Result: Nomination successful. Powers (talk) 15:42, 21 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Ah yes, I forgot about Bureaucrats and was misremembering you as being a Steward. Anyway, I wasn't being impatient, just posting a reminder. Ikan Kekek (talk) 15:55, 21 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]
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