Talk:Abyei

In South Sudan?

On what basis does the article claim a disputed town under the control of Sudan is "in South Sudan"? Such a wording is improper and not fair. I have edited the article accordingly. Ikan Kekek (talk) 08:29, 30 July 2018 (UTC)

There's another problem, though: Abyei needs to be breadcrumbed to somewhere in Sudan, not South Sudan, and it needs to be taken out of the Bahr el Ghazal article if we're treating that as solely a South Sudanese province. But that's the problem. Instead, we should be treating that province like either the Golan Heights, which is de facto divided between Israel and Syria, or Kashmir, which is divided between India and Pakistan. The larger portion of the Golan is in Israel, thereby getting the Golan Heights designation, with the rest getting the Golan Heights (Syria) designation. In the case of Kashmir, a distinction can be made between Azad Kashmir and other Pakistani-controlled areas and Indian-controlled Jammu and Kashmir, as the names are different. I suppose in this case, a distinction can be made between Bahr el Ghazal (Sudan) and Bahr el Ghazal (South Sudan), with Abyei breadcrumbed to the former. Ikan Kekek (talk) 09:04, 30 July 2018 (UTC)

Sounds like a good idea, but we should monitor the situation, maybe it'll eventually be resolved one way or another... Hobbitschuster (talk) 13:00, 1 August 2018 (UTC)

Of course: When things change on the ground, they change on Wikivoyage. Crimea is a case in point. Is there anyone reading who knows which parts of Bahr el Ghazal are under the control of South Sudan? Ikan Kekek (talk) 17:38, 1 August 2018 (UTC)

I think all of Bahr el Ghazal is under South Sudan control except for two areas – Kafia Kingi in the South Darfur state of Sudan, and the Abyei Area. Nurg (talk) 06:10, 19 August 2018 (UTC)

OK, cool. So in that case, those two areas should be breadcrumbed to Sudan. I think that still necessitates two articles about Bahr el Ghazal, for breadcrumbing purposes, though Bahr el Ghazal (Sudan) could be the only one with a parenthesis. Ikan Kekek (talk) 07:11, 19 August 2018 (UTC)

It should breadcrumb to Kurdufan. I have just added it to that article. We don't want a 6th region article for Sudan. Arguably we don't need any region articles for Sudan, because there are only 8 destination articles in total - Abyei will be the 9th. Nurg (talk) 08:46, 19 August 2018 (UTC)

Whatever works. Let's also make sure the maps show de facto lines of control. Ikan Kekek (talk) 19:54, 19 August 2018 (UTC)

Ikan, are you happy for this to be removed from Wikivoyage:Requests_for_comment now? Nurg (talk) 09:00, 28 August 2018 (UTC)

I suppose so. Are there any more steps to be taken? Ikan Kekek (talk) 17:47, 28 August 2018 (UTC)

It looks like Kurdufan is not a region but a redirect back to the country article? If so, that breaks the breadcrumbs for anything with {{isPartOf|Kurdufan}} and leaves the region list in the country article as a circular redirect. Perhaps I should revert Kurdufan back to being a region until this is sorted? K7L (talk) 14:23, 9 September 2018 (UTC)

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