Talk:Airport articles

Should we populate any of the listing fields?

We're using the listing template, so which fields should we populate in this article? Hobbitschuster (talk) 15:53, 4 November 2017 (UTC)

Perhaps just wikidata elements (WP, photo, lat and long if incorrect) and a really short sentence such as you've added to Frankfurt, to fill up all that white space more than anything. Everything else should be in the airport's article. --ThunderingTyphoons! (talk) 16:53, 4 November 2017 (UTC)

IATA Codes

I think we should also add the IATA code for each airport. Hobbitschuster (talk) 21:28, 5 November 2017 (UTC)

Good idea. Would you be willing to do that? It's a pity IATA isn't one of the fields under Wikidata jurisdiction. ThunderingTyphoons! (talk) 22:58, 5 November 2017 (UTC)

Should they be in the "alt" field or in the "content" field? Hobbitschuster (talk) 22:59, 5 November 2017 (UTC)

Content, because alt comes out in italics. ThunderingTyphoons! (talk) 23:03, 5 November 2017 (UTC)

Suggestion to replace current banner

current

File:Airports Wikivoyage banner.jpg

The current banner isn't the standard size/ratio.

I created File:Airports Wikivoyage banner.jpg as a replacement. Any one have any objections to making this change? ויקיג'אנקי (talk) 18:45, 14 August 2019 (UTC)

I much prefer the current banner (the graphic of runway markings). There's hardly ever a non-photo that's appropriate as a banner, but I think it works well in this instance. Your proposed replacement is a little difficult to recognize as an airport (at a glance it could just as easily be a shopping mall or train station), and it's a very busy image with lots of crowds and signs and other small details.

If the size/ratio of the current banner is really a problem, we could edit the graphic to make the runway "longer". Or, maybe we could find some free hi-res satellite imagery of an actual runway and use that, although most runways have nasty tire marks all over them. --Bigpeteb (talk) 20:07, 14 August 2019 (UTC)

File:Runway diagram.svg

Alternately, File:Runway diagram.svg from w:Runway is already quite long, is more accurate to real-world markings, and includes a "grass" strip around the runway that I think would improve the visual look over the current banner as well as a taxiway for a little bit of visual variety. It too would need to be trimmed to the correct length and to remove the transparent margin around the edges. --Bigpeteb (talk) 20:16, 14 August 2019 (UTC)

Prefer the current banner by a long way. I'd favour the edits Bigpeteb proposes over changing the banner to something else. Thanks to ויקיג'אנקי for going to the talk page first.--ThunderingTyphoons! (talk) 21:58, 14 August 2019 (UTC)

I have plunged forward and changed the banner to a modified version of File:Runway diagram.svg. --Soumya-8974 (talk) 09:01, 21 March 2021 (UTC)

I would suggest not unilaterally changing pagebanners of pages that already have custom pagebanners but proposing one or more new banners and having a discussion, as you can see was done previously. Let's see now what other people think. I don't really care about the change but just advise you not to do that in other articles. Ikan Kekek (talk) 09:34, 21 March 2021 (UTC)

Thanks. I am opposing the current banner for following reasons:

1. It is off the size of the standard banner size.
2. The runway markings are wrong.

--Soumya-8974 (talk) 09:38, 21 March 2021 (UTC)

Listing airports by country

The article currently lists airports by city, which is not good considering that not all cities have more than one airports. Therefore, we should list the airports by country. --Soumya-8974 (talk) 09:27, 21 March 2021 (UTC)

I tend to disagree, since this will never become a really long list, because only really major airports will ever have articles on this site. However, I'm happy to have this discussion and see what other people think. Ikan Kekek (talk) 09:32, 21 March 2021 (UTC)

I also disagree. Airports are primarily used to connect cities and their surroundings to the outside world, and most people accessing this list will probably have a city (even a specific airport) in mind already before checking if there's an article on its airport.--ThunderingTyphoons! (talk) 09:40, 21 March 2021 (UTC)

I know. But the number of sections under "Asia", "Europe" and "North America" are excessive. If we list the airports by country, we can cut down the number of sections dramatically. The city concern can be resolved by mentioning the serving city in the listing. --Soumya-8974 (talk) 09:46, 21 March 2021 (UTC)

Listing by country would result in a lot of instances of only one airport per section. Ikan Kekek (talk) 09:48, 21 March 2021 (UTC)

Same goes to the current listing by city. --Soumya-8974 (talk) 09:50, 21 March 2021 (UTC)

What are you suggesting? Listing by country would necessitate having a heading of the country and a subheading of each city, then airport. If your idea is to just list JFK, LaGuardia and Newark Airport alphabetically within a heading of "United States", that would be extremely user-unfriendly and I would strongly oppose it. Ikan Kekek (talk) 09:55, 21 March 2021 (UTC)

I have not given any example of my suggestion yet. Let me give you the one:

Asia (heading 1)

Qatar (heading 2)

• 1 Hamad Airport (DOH ^IATA). Situated in Doha.  

--Soumya-8974 (talk) 09:58, 21 March 2021 (UTC)

And how do you plan on handling cities with multiple airport articles? Ikan Kekek (talk) 10:41, 21 March 2021 (UTC)

A city section will be added only when we have that city with multiple airports. --Soumya-8974 (talk) 13:28, 21 March 2021 (UTC)

Another example of my suggestion:

Europe (heading 1)

Netherlands (heading 2)

• 2 Schiphol Airport (AMS ^IATA). Situated in Amsterdam, hub for flag carrier KLM, one of the oldest airlines in the world and one of the top contenders for "most countries served from one airport". Curiously lies below sea level, which is interesting because its name means "ship grave".  

United Kingdom (heading 2)

London (heading 3)

• 3 Heathrow Airport (LHR ^IATA). Europe's busiest airport by international traffic, and the world's second.  
• 4 Gatwick Airport (LGW ^IATA). London's second hub is as drab and functional as they come.  
• 5 Stansted Airport (STN ^IATA). Busy low cost and business aviation hub.  

--Soumya-8974 (talk) 13:32, 21 March 2021 (UTC)

That looks fine, but it actually creates more headings and separate sections than the current format. I don't think the current layout is difficult to use or navigate around, but since I created this page from scratch my judgement is not necessarily unbiased.--ThunderingTyphoons! (talk) 13:44, 21 March 2021 (UTC)

I also think this is a solution in search of a problem, but maybe someone else would like to comment. Ikan Kekek (talk) 18:53, 21 March 2021 (UTC)