Talk:Armenian Genocide remembrance

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Ikan Kekek (talk) 04:20, 26 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]


I think the article needs to point out, perhaps under Respect, that Turkish authorities deny that any genocide took place and there may be some hostility to visitors claiming it did. If it were up to me, I'd add text along these lines in the intro:

Turkish authorities, including the current government, deny that any genocide took place. According to them, Armenians were transported, much as Jews were taken to Babylon in Biblical times or Armenians to Isfahan by Shah Abbas I in the 1600s; this has been a common policy in the Middle East for thousands of years, governments moving potentially hostile minorities away from sensitive border regions. The claims of genocide are merely propaganda by biased observers.
On the other, while not all historians accept the term "genocide", they all agree that Armenians were seriously mistreated in this time period and many died. There is a long complex history of governments in the region — not just the Turks, but Iran, Iraq and currently Da'esh (ISIS) — being accused of discriminating against and oppressing minorities, most notably Armenians and Kurds.

Obviously this would be highly controversial, so I am putting it here rather than directly into the article. Pashley (talk) 14:49, 27 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]

I think that phrasing is way too generous to the denialists' claims. But I agree that we should mention the Turkish government's refusal to acknowledge the genocide and the caution that travellers should exercise as a result. I might suggest something like, "To this day, the Turkish government denies that a genocide took place, and visitors to Turkey should be cautious about discussing the deportation and extermination campaign, and especially using the word 'genocide'." —Granger (talk · contribs) 15:18, 27 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]