Talk:Hot weather

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Merge?[edit]

We already have sunburn and sun protection. Should the two articles be merged? If so, which way? Pashley (talk) 18:16, 20 June 2017 (UTC)

If not, should the Sunburn_and_sun_protection#Heatstroke_and_heat_exhaustion section be moved into this article? I'd say yes. Pashley (talk) 18:18, 20 June 2017 (UTC)
I was consdering if the the Heatstroke portion of that article should be moved here. ShakespeareFan00 (talk) 18:46, 20 June 2017 (UTC)
I think the move would improve both articles. Does anyone object or should we go ahead with the move? Pashley (talk) 12:11, 23 June 2017 (UTC)
I'd say merge the heatstroke stuff here. You might also want to see if there's anything in Severe Weather that could also be moved. I'd strongly suggest keeping Arid region safety as it's own article, but include a link from here.

ShakespeareFan00 (talk) 13:28, 23 June 2017 (UTC)

Yes Done, but I may have missed some links that need fixing. Pashley (talk) 14:59, 23 June 2017 (UTC)

Maps[edit]

Here are some maps at Commons which show tropical/subtropical regions, but I'm not sure how reliable they are. Are these OK for use in the article? The map at w:Köppen climate classification could be used as well. (@ShakespeareFan00:)  Seagull123  Φ  11:21, 23 June 2017 (UTC)

The Kopen map looks a bit too technical (to me it looks more like something for geographers vs travellers.) , maybe if the Tropical/Subtropical region maps were combined they'd be what I had in mind. Thanks for looking into this though. ShakespeareFan00 (talk) 11:25, 23 June 2017 (UTC)
I added text at Hot_weather#Understand that I think covers this. Do we still need a map? Pashley (talk) 17:36, 23 June 2017 (UTC)
Thank you, possibly less need for a map now. ShakespeareFan00 (talk) 17:46, 23 June 2017 (UTC)

Hot weather[edit]

Swept in from the pub

I stubbed this, but it needs a massive expansion. I've marked this as a stub until is can be improved (despite what certain contributors think.) ShakespeareFan00 (talk) 11:37, 23 June 2017 (UTC)

Stub'ing loads and loads of pages ... somebody has to write the content and more "needing significant work" pages does not give users a good impression of WikiVoyage. (I've loads of ideas for new pages but I've still got loads of existing pages needing attention on my list to do first. PsamatheM (talk) 16:20, 23 June 2017 (UTC)
Duly noted. ShakespeareFan00 (talk) 17:35, 23 June 2017 (UTC)
Looking at the article in its current state, it may not be "useable" or a "guide" but there is definitely enough content to make useful to a reader and it adds value to Wikivoyage as a whole. On the other hand, there are skeletons like Bibbiena, Leavenworth (Indiana) and Menghai which don't add value at all. Gizza (roam) 11:59, 24 June 2017 (UTC)

Mirages[edit]

This to me seems obvious, but (inferior?) w:mirage's occur under hot weather. Rare in the UK, but I've seen a very minor one on an expanse of parking lot once.

Should probably be mentioned in this article. I already added a short note to Arid region safety.ShakespeareFan00 (talk) 09:08, 24 June 2017 (UTC)

I think those that really confuse people (such as the lake-in-the-desert) should be added as concerns to be aware of. There are other mirages that are just curious phenomena – but could be mentioned as such. And they are not confined to areas with hot weather. Superior mirages (or perhaps looming, the Wikipedia articles do not explain the difference clearly) are quite common at sea over here. They could be confusing, as distant islands can be seen, but those who know how far the horizon should be probably also know about this phenomenon. --LPfi (talk) 16:08, 24 June 2017 (UTC)
This is what I added to Arid region safety:

"In certain areas, including expanses of sand or surfaced roads, (inferior) mirages can easily form under the hot conditions. These are a form of heat haze or shimmer, that can give a distant object the apparent appearance of being viewed on a water like surface. An (inferior) mirage can also make it appear you are seeing a distant lake or shore, when no such body of water exists. Do not be fooled!"

Plunge forward if you feel it needs expansion. Adding a section to Hot Weather, would be appreciated also, but probably needs someone that's seen all types which other than an minor inferior one in a parking lot, I have not. ShakespeareFan00 (talk) 16:14, 24 June 2017 (UTC)