Talk:Kauai

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Single Condo Listings[edit]

Given the presumably large number of places to stay on Kauai, do we want to have listings for individual condos? The most recent add was from an owner of a single condo. -- (WT-en) Colin 23:43, 6 Apr 2005 (EDT)

That's a tough call-- it really is one of the more popular ways to stay on the islands, probably second only to staying in a big resort. I don't know if only listing condo companies is somehow "better" but we don't want to be a phonebook either. I say leave it and lets see where it goes. If it gets out of control we might want to revisit the issue, but otherwise I see no reason to descriminate againsts individual listings... (WT-en) Majnoona 12:29, 7 Apr 2005 (EDT)

Exaggeration[edit]

Under Sleep it says:

The "windward" side, especially the north coast can get up to twice rain than the sunny south coast.

This is a gross exaggeration. Here are rain data from "World Climate", from actual weather station measurements, for Princeville, on the North Shore:

http://www.worldclimate.com/cgi-bin/data.pl?ref=N22W159+2200+518165C

Mapquest map for this latitude and longitude:

http://www.mapquest.com/maps/map.adp?searchtype=address&formtype=address&latlongtype=decimal&latitude=22.21&longitude=-159.48

and Kaluahonu, on the south shore:

http://www.worldclimate.com/cgi-bin/data.pl?ref=N21W159+2200+513023C

Mapquest map for this latitude and longitude:

http://www.mapquest.com/maps/map.adp?searchtype=address&formtype=address&latlongtype=decimal&latitude=21.91&longitude=-159.45

The yearly rainfall for the North Shore Location is 86.1, and for the south shore location 75.5. Hardly "Twice".

I think this comment should be deleted.

Hank Drayton Oct. 14,2007


By using a station close to the popular tourist destination of Poipu you can clearly see that "twice" is not a "gross exaggeration" when compared to Princeville.

http://www.worldclimate.com/cgi-bin/data.pl?ref=N21W159+2300+514950C

It is pretty common knowledge that throughout Hawaii the leeward sides of the island get less rain than the windward sides due to the generally prevailing weather patterns.

Talk[edit]

The talk section was redundant and incorrect to boot.

I removed it. There is already a hawaiian words section in the main article in which the words are correctly spelled.


User:Stephen sommerhalter's text deletion[edit]

(text from User:(WT-en) Stephen sommerhalter deleted due to relicensing) -- (WT-en) LtPowers 11:43, 1 January 2010 (EST)

Uhh... why? Legally speaking, you've already licensed them to Wikivoyage and can't take them back, although we'll give you the benefit of the doubt if you missed all the warnings about this. (WT-en) Jpatokal 21:53, 1 April 2009 (EDT)

Possible merge of Lihue article, other issues before a possible nomination for OtBP[edit]

This article looks good, and it's about a beautiful area of Hawaii that is not Tourism Central like Waikiki (not that there's anything wrong with Waikiki!). One thing I wonder about, though, is the Lihuʻe article, which is an Outline and might be better to merge and redirect into this article. What do you all think? Ikan Kekek (talk) 05:39, 17 April 2014 (UTC)

Kauai definitely warrants splitting into smaller articles, although I'm not sure how best to break it up since the towns are so tiny and spread apart. For now I'd prefer keeping Lihue as its own article rather than introducing even more listings into a Kauai article that could eventually include hundreds of businesses, although if others disagree I don't feel strongly about it. -- Ryan • (talk) • 05:55, 17 April 2014 (UTC)
I think it would be very odd to merge a city article into a region article. Powers (talk) 17:32, 17 April 2014 (UTC)
It wouldn't be odd if there isn't much more to say about the city. If there is, it needs a lot of work, and in that case, it's probably incorrect for the Kauai article to be a Guide, since region articles can't be more than Outlines if the city articles linked from them aren't at least Usable; isn't that right? Ikan Kekek (talk) 19:11, 17 April 2014 (UTC)

Burger Restaurant[edit]

"... great burgers. You just can't have them your way. They come standard and any changes they make you do while the cook isn't looking. The burgers are great and the onion rings are better. It's an experience to be had. It is definitely an experience but don't expect much from the burgers."

What kind of nonsense is this? You make changes to the burger while the cook isn't looking? The burgers are great but don't expect much from the burgers? It's an experience to be had, and it also is definitely an experience? You cannot be serious. --87.150.5.108 20:53, 26 February 2019 (UTC)

Looks like a partially-successful attempt at humour to me. Anyway, as you've found out, every article here is editable, so please feel free to plunge forward and make the changes you feel are necessary. Welcome to Wikivoyage! --ThunderingTyphoons! (talk) 21:01, 26 February 2019 (UTC)
Sorry, but I most certainly won't do that. I don't know the restaurant itself, and I have absolutely no idea what the author of this weird piece of "humor" was trying to say. So the only thing I could do is delete the whole thing. --87.150.5.108 21:07, 26 February 2019 (UTC)
Let's not do that. Hopefully you can add content where your area of knowledge permits. All the best, ThunderingTyphoons! (talk) 21:16, 26 February 2019 (UTC)

Beaches[edit]

"Visitors are especially cautioned to not enter any beach on the Na Pali Coast, which has been the site of multiple drownings."

Just curious: How do you go about drowning on a beach? --87.150.5.108 21:02, 26 February 2019 (UTC)

Have edited for clarity.--ThunderingTyphoons! (talk) 21:17, 26 February 2019 (UTC)
Thanks. That's what I too assumed it was supposed to mean, though I wasn't quite sure. Maybe visitors are cautioned not to enter the beaches on that coast, for whatever reason. --87.150.5.108 21:28, 26 February 2019 (UTC)

Advertising[edit]

"An amazing service the east side provides is Kayak rentals on their Wailua river. It is a very hidden location but this family owned kayak rental are native Hawaiians and very friendly."

How nice. And surely it is only a coincidence that this company is also the first one listed among the luaus.

Do we really want commercial plugs like this one in the article? I am aware that Wikivoyage doesn't have the strict neutrality standards like Wikipedia to adhere to, but (self?)-promoting praise like this is a bit too much for my taste.

The least we can do is balance it out by mentioning that this company's tours in particular are described as being extremely touristy to the point of being kitschy in a number of travel guides. --76.173.164.12 18:59, 31 October 2019 (UTC)

I would, but in my experience deletes by unregistered users, however sensible they may be, generally get undone within seconds by some self-appointed policeman. As long as that is the case, "plunging forward" seems like a somewhat futile effort to me. --76.173.164.12 19:26, 31 October 2019 (UTC)

Feral cats[edit]

"Also quite surprisingly, stray cats are everywhere as well."

Just wondering: What exactly is surprising about that?

On the contrary, after having read about the problems with invasive species on Hawaii, I was surprised to see a lot fewer feral cats than I expected, and certainly a lot fewer than I have seen at many other destinations I have been to. Possibly they concentrate in some hot spots where they hope to get food (around the hotels and restaurants, probably), or there may have been effective neutering programs. Or, to put it more bluntly, effective extermination programs. If anyone has current information on that, the article might need updating. --76.173.164.12 19:13, 31 October 2019 (UTC)

Won't you please read the question before giving your standard reply?
How am I going to "plunge forward" if I have a question about a wording ("surprising")? Maybe it makes sense to others, if not to me.
And how am I going to "plunge forward" if I am just guessing at reasons and asking if anyone has current information? --76.173.164.12 19:30, 31 October 2019 (UTC)
  • You sound like you know the place. Good edits will stand. As long as you use PG-rated language, and refrain from inserting promotional links, it should be OK. Ibaman (talk) 19:39, 31 October 2019 (UTC)