Talk:Midwest

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Regarding the major cities listed, while I wouldn't suggest removing Milwaukee from the list, Columbus, Ohio is one of the 25 largest combined MSAs in the U.S. (while Milwaukee is not). Other than Columbus, all of the below big cities are on the Wikivoyage list.

Rank Combined Statistical Area State(s) 2005 3 Chicago–Naperville–Michigan City IL–IN–WI 9,661,840 9 Detroit–Warren–Flint MI 5,428,000 13 Minneapolis–St. Paul–St. Cloud MN–WI 3,467,108 14 Cleveland–Akron–Elyria OH 2,931,774 16 St. Louis–St. Charles–Farmington MO–IL 2,840,179 20 Cincinnati–Middletown–Wilmington OH–KY–IN 2,113,011 21 Kansas City–Overland Park–Kansas City MO–KS 2,015,282 23 Indianapolis–Anderson–Columbus IN 1,958,453 24 Columbus–Marion–Chillicothe OH 1,936,351 —The preceding comment was added by (WT-en) 69.160.220.98 (talk • contribs) 14 Jan 2006

As the 2010 census information is used in the List of Metropolitan Statistical Areas this section should be edited. If we're going by the "in the top 25" parameter, would it not make more sense to just include those cities (which is now four instead of nine) and rank them according to population? It would look like this:

* 3. Chicago (9,461,105)

* 13. Detroit (4,296,250)

* 16. Minneapolis-St. Paul (3,279,833)

* 19. St. Louis (2,812,896)

I'm going to wait a few days and change it if nobody objects. Minnecologies (talk) 12:53, 14 January 2013 (UTC)

Reducing the list to four wouldn't be very helpful to our readers. We aim to have between 5 and 9 (usually 9) items in a list. The idea here is to identify the most commonly sought cities and let users link directly to them instead of having to go through the state hierarchy. We should probably remove the bit about which cities are in the Top 25, since that does change from time to time. LtPowers (talk) 14:17, 14 January 2013 (UTC)

I have now done this. --Peter ^Talk 17:58, 14 January 2013 (UTC)

Sleep section

Just checking--there isn't even supposed to be a sleep section for region pages, much less hotel listings, right? --(WT-en) Peter ^Talk 22:19, 3 March 2008 (EST)

That's my understanding (as you probably noticed) per Project:Region article template. I guess there could be exceptions where it might be reasonable to have an overview, but certainly at the state level it is ridiculous to have listings. It is my understanding that certain regions like smaller island nations are allowed to have Sleep sections because the towns/villages will not likely ever have articles. -- (WT-en) OldPine 22:24, 3 March 2008 (EST)

NO stereotyping

Can we stop with stereotyping midwesteners as some kind of 'moral nice down to earth' label. People are like that in every area of the country ,and there are rude people in every part of the country.Personality is not related to where someone grew up. There are down to earth people who grew up in southern california,new jersey,new york city exactly like the midwest. there are rude people who were born and raised in wisconsin,illinois,michigan,ohio,indiana and every state in the country.please stop it.midwesteners are just like everyone else. —The preceding comment was added by (WT-en) 66.90.29.229 (talk • contribs)

Midwesterners are exceptionally down to earth and nice—I think you are being confused by the occasional rude East Coast carpetbagger like myself. Broad generalizations have a place in travel guides, especially at this high and superficial level in our Project:Geographical hierarchy. --(WT-en) Peter ^Talk 04:11, 7 November 2009 (EST)

Midwest B.S

fOR THE last time,there are the same amount of down to earth people in the midwest as there are in the northeast,east coast,west coast,southwest and plain states,just as there the same amount of rude people in the northeast as there are in the midwest,west coast,plain states,southwest,east coast etc. I am sick of labeling midwesteners that when it is about personality not where one grew up.I guarantee if someone did a research one would find that each state has the same proportion of nice 'down to earth' people and 'rude people'. There are nice down to earth northeast people and there are nice down to earth californians (ever hear of Rick Warren), there are rude northeasteners there are rude californians there are down to earth midwesteners,there are rude midwesteners,there are rude southeners there are nice down to earth southeners.Please stop making B.S UP. If you want your stupid article to spew lies so be it,it's a bold faced lie and you all know it.

As Peter states above, there has to be some sort of generalization made, because this article covers an entire region. If you feel that it is misrepresented, I think your best option would be to write the header in a way that you think represents the region best and post it HERE first to let others have a look at it. If it sounds nice and representative of the area, then we can transfer it to the actual page. If there are issues, people can work them out here. Of course, it may be decided that people prefer what is already there or that they like a little of both and will have to reach a compromise. If you don't propose anything different, then it is doubtful that any changes will be made. (WT-en) ChubbyWimbus 14:54, 7 November 2009 (EST)

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Enough with the 'midwest is down to earth' b.s. First off all anyone from a small town reguardless of what part of the country it is will be down to earth. There are down to earth people in every area of the country . People who were born and raised in the small towns in Arizona, Maine, New Jersey(ecspecially south New Jersey) are just as down to earth as midwesteners are (and there are plenty of small towns in Arizona and New Jersey). The artical fails to mention Chicago ,the country's 3rd largest city ,as a huge population center. And I don't know why Ohio and Michigan is on this list.Ohio is exactly the same as New Jersey ,New York,Pennsylvania,Massachussetts.Ohio is a rust belt city.Ohio looks and feels exactly the same as New Jersey does.Michigan is also an eastern state mistakenly labeled a midwest state.If Ohio and Michigan are listed as midwest states,then I am going to add New Jersey as one (and if you laugh, what is the difference between areas around Chicago and areas around NYC??) BOwash is the same as Chipitt.If you don't add new jersey to the list then i am going to delete ohio and michigan from the list myself. ------ james florek is a douchebag

Did you even look at the suggestions you were given before? Anyway, the U.S. Census Bureau disagrees with you that Ohio and Michigan are not Midwestern states. (WT-en) LtPowers 18:05, 11 March 2010 (EST)

Just curious: No Kansas, Nebraska, and the Dakotas?

This entry has the only map I've found so far that doesn't include them. —The preceding comment was added by 64.89.178.117 (talk • contribs)

See Great Plains. -- (WT-en) Ryan • (talk) • 14:28, 19 March 2012 (EDT)

Incorrect.

Where is North Dakota, South Dakota, Kansas, and Nebraska? All of these states are a part of the Midwest. The Great Plains itself is a sub-region of the Midwest. There is no reason NOT to include these four states in the Midwest.

From wikipedia.org: "The Midwestern United States as defined by the United States Census Bureau, is one of the four U.S. geographic regions.[1] The area is referred to as the Midwest throughout the United States.The region consists of 12 states in the north-central and north-eastern United States: Illinois, Indiana, Iowa, Kansas, Michigan, Minnesota, Missouri, Nebraska, North Dakota, Ohio, South Dakota, and Wisconsin.

I will edit this page within the coming days to meet the correct definition

—The preceding comment was added by 75.39.143.38 (talk • contribs)

No, you won't. We've divided the United States by logical travel regions, not according to U.S. Census definitions. The Great Plains are a coherent travel region, and the fact that the census bureau includes it within the Midwest is irrelevant. LtPowers (talk) 01:21, 24 January 2013 (UTC)

(edit conflict) The existing regional breakdown reflects several years' worth of discussions and can be found in the existing archives of Talk:United States of America. While proposed changes are welcome, it took a long time to come to an agreement on the current regional breakdown and any changes will need a broad consensus. If you feel strongly about this issue then Talk:United States of America is probably the place to start a discussion. -- Ryan • (talk) • 01:22, 24 January 2013 (UTC)

Move to Midwest?

The disambiguation page Midwest points to two other articles. Mid West (Western Australia) is spelled differently, and is an unsignificant region with around 50,000 inhabitants. Midwest (Wyoming) does not exist yet. Most readers who look for the word Midwest can be assumed to look for this article. The other places can have a top link. /Yvwv (talk) 08:59, 12 June 2017 (UTC)

• Agree This is definitely the primary meaning that others anticipate when searching "Midwest". —Justin (koavf)❤T☮C☺M☯ 14:38, 12 June 2017 (UTC)
• Agree. "Midwest (United States of America)" is awfully letter-heavy; surely even if "Midwest" were found to be ambiguous, "Midwest (USA)" would be just fine. QuartierLatin1968 (talk) 22:14, 13 June 2017 (UTC)

I really don't know about other uses of "Midwest". If they're really as few and relatively unimportant as Yvwv states above, the proposal is sensible. Ikan Kekek (talk) 22:19, 13 June 2017 (UTC)

Four in favor, zero against. Case settled? /Yvwv (talk) 14:16, 14 June 2017 (UTC)

I would think so... QuartierLatin1968 (talk) 04:13, 17 June 2017 (UTC)

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