Talk:Sydney to Melbourne by car

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Hume Highway vs. Hume Freeway vs. Hume Motorway

Swept in from the pub

G'day WikiVoyagers,

It's probably my 10th edit now fixing the Hume Highway and Freeway errors here. They're both part of the continuous Syd-Mel Fwy except that in some parts its called Hume Motorway, Hume Highway and Hume Freeway. Hume Highway is what most New South Welsh people call it and Hume Freeway is what Victorians call it. It's because it's called Hume Hwy in NSW and Hume Fwy in Vic. But for some weird overkill, most have it from a Victorians perspective of Hume Fwy.

I really have no clue on what to do, furthermore, Hume in NSW is only a highway unlike Victoria where it's a freeway. How shall we write it making it consistent between signs, locals, and both state's point of view.

We also have a problem with the Pacific but that's resolved with renaming the article.

Cheers, SHB2000 (talk) 10:24, 18 March 2021 (UTC)

Why not just try to name it consistently depending on which section you're writing about, and add a note to the article that the Hume is called "freeway", "highway" and "motorway" along different sections? If there's no reason to refer to the NSW section as a "freeway", no reason to refer to the Vic section as a "highway", then follow local usage. For a lot of people not accustomed to the Australian road system, all three words might as well be synonyms. --ThunderingTyphoons! (talk) 10:46, 18 March 2021 (UTC)

Times were good before 2013 before all this happened :) Plus, all of it is freeway alike but it has cross junctions (in NSW) SHB2000 (talk) 11:03, 18 March 2021 (UTC)

I'd be inclined to agree with TT -- call it the Freeway in Vic articles and the Highway in NSW ones. (The Dukes Highway/Western Freeway between Adelaide and Melbourne has similar issues.) Vaticidalprophet (talk) 11:55, 18 March 2021 (UTC)

Thanks, but what do we do in Albury-Wodonga? I've put highway as it's mainly in NSW but if Fwy works better then I'll change it. SHB2000 (talk) 12:05, 18 March 2021 (UTC)

@Vaticidalprophet: The SE Fwy/Dukes Hwy/Western Hwy/Western Fwy/Western Hwy/Western Fwy must be really confusing. SHB2000 (talk) 12:08, 18 March 2021 (UTC)

Explain it in Understand of the itinerary and in a parenthesis or whatever in other places where the naming might be confusing. Is there some specific place where that is difficult to do sensibly? –LPfi (talk) 17:10, 18 March 2021 (UTC)

Albury-Wodonga might be a bit tough for it, as it's a town (two towns blending into one, really) on a state border that the Hume [Freeway/Highway] runs through. Vaticidalprophet (talk) 18:04, 18 March 2021 (UTC)

I changed it to "Hume Freeway/Highway" in that article. Isn't that a working solution? The itinerary may need to address it in a few more words, but I don't see that as a problem. –LPfi (talk) 19:26, 18 March 2021 (UTC)

For some reason, my car says its Hume Fwy even in Albury. SHB2000 (talk) 20:15, 18 March 2021 (UTC)

Additionally, what about Berrima? A town between the Hume Motorway and Highway? SHB2000 (talk) 05:20, 19 March 2021 (UTC)

This feels like a lot of more effort than this problem is worth. Unless Australia is in the habit of having separate roads, one named "X Fwy" and the other named "X Hwy", and going completely different places, I wouldn't worry about this, especially around the state borders. WhatamIdoing (talk) 15:44, 19 March 2021 (UTC)

┌────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────┘ Wikipedia calls it and notes that: "From north to south, the road is called the Hume Highway in metropolitan Sydney, the Hume Motorway between the suburbs of Edmondson Park and Prestons and Berrima, the Hume Highway elsewhere in New South Wales and the Hume Freeway in Victoria." I wouldn't get bent out of shape over this as I think that readers will generally understand that, as they sang in w:A Mighty Wind, "the highway's just one big road and it goes from here to there". I don't think readers will be confused if the terminology changes from highway to freeway to motorway if they are are called "Hume". Ground Zero (talk) 19:23, 19 March 2021 (UTC)

@Ground Zero, Vaticidalprophet: - Sorry to bother you but what about the Pacific? It's somewhat different to the Hume where it keeps changing from Pacific Highway to Motorway frequently. SHB2000 (talk) 05:20, 22 March 2021 (UTC)