Talk:Syria

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Archived discussions Talk:Syria/Archive 2007-2011

Formatting and language conventions For articles about Syria, please use the 24-hour clock to show times, e.g. 09:00-12:00 and 18:00-00:00. Please show prices in this format: SYP100 and not £S100, LS100 or S£100, or الليرة السورية 100. Please use American spelling (color, labor, traveled, realize, center, analog, program).

Including claimed territory in maps

I thought we weren't doing that, per discussion at Wikivoyage talk:Regions map Expedition#Handling of disputed/claimed territories. Ikan Kekek (talk) 23:01, 14 May 2013 (UTC)

Policy question

Swept in from the pub

Should some articles like Syria , have a 'Get Out Now!' warning? Sfan00 IMG (talk) 18:16, 29 August 2013 (UTC)

Yes.

(Although I would think for anyone already in Syria, it is probably redundant.)

An example of an article currently with a prominent warning is Egypt. --W. Frank^e-mail_talk 20:04, 29 August 2013 (UTC)

Region map changes

I was wondering if I could get your help on something. Iraq and Syria have undergone massive territorial changes in recent years that have made our region maps of them outdated. For Syria, I believe that we need to divide up the Syrian Desert region into two new zones: Syrian Kurdistan/Rojava, and the Southeastern Desert, as the experience for any suicidally-brave travelers in the two areas would be wildly different, as one is under a Kurdish-dominated democracy and the other is increasingly under the control of the Assad Regime.

For Iraq, similar changes need to be made. I think that the Iraqi Desert region should include Ramadi, as it is the capital of Al-Anbar Governorate. When it comes to Iraqi Kurdistan, Kirkuk is no longer under Kurdish control, so it should not be included in the Iraqi Kurdistan region on the map.

As for the name "Al-Jazira", I believe it does not accurately describe the area. In antiquity, the area was part of Assyria, a name more people would easily recognize than "Al-Jazira". I think that part should be renamed to "Assyria," as most historical sites there (such as Nineveh in Mosul) are Assyrian.

Southern Iraq, referred to as "Lower Mesopotamia" by the region map, actually represents the nerve center of historical Mesopotamian civilizations, not just a "lower" part. For this reason, I believe it should be renamed to simply "Mesopotamia."

Western Sahara also needs a region map, given that it's divided in two (also, that situation is unlikely to change in the near future). The east is controlled by the Polisario Front, so we should refer to it as the Sahrawi Arab Dem. Republic, and the West as "Moroccan Western Sahara"

Yemen, on the other hand, is far more complicated than Iraq and Syria. While a redrawing is warranted, it would be impractical to attempt now.

Libertarianmoderate (talk) 18:26, 17 June 2018 (UTC)

I would think that exceedingly few travellers would be going to these places now. Those that do had better have better sources for travel info than Wikivoyage. It would be admirable to be able to keep up with changes in these highly volatile regions, but it is likely to be a low priority for our active editors given how few - if any - readers it would benefit. If only we had more contributors, we could be the travel guide of choice for even rarely visited regions.. Ground Zero (talk) 17:40, 23 July 2018 (UTC)

A short comment on proposed region renames: Sure, Assyrians do live in the region proposed to be renamed as "Assyria", as well as elsewhere in the surrounding greater area, but they are a minority in anywhere they live, regardless of where their empire was based millenia back. Mesopotamia (Ancient Greek for "between rivers") denotes the area between the Euphrates and Tigris Rivers, both of which originate from the mountains of eastern Turkey, and is often understood to be anywhere down the rivers from, and including, Southeastern Turkey. So the area around the mouth of the rivers into the Persian Gulf is definitely Lower Mesopotamia.

But in any case, these discussions should take place in talk pages of the relevant country and/or region articles. Vidimian (talk) 20:07, 23 July 2018 (UTC)

Prices in SYP

As the value of the Syrian pound has fallen from US$0.02 to $0.002, and it is unlikely that any of our prices have been updated on a long time, I think it makes sense to remove any prices listed in SYP because they are of no use to travellers. Comments? Ground Zero (talk) 11:48, 29 September 2019 (UTC)

I agree, it's meaningless to have prices in the article that don't even closely reflect the situation on the ground. Ypsilon (talk) 12:18, 29 September 2019 (UTC)

I think in certain cases, out-of-date prices can still be useful if the date is listed, but when it comes to Syria we're going to have to rebuild so much of our coverage from scratch anyway, I agree it's hard to see much value in keeping the prices. —Granger (talk · contribs) 15:05, 9 October 2019 (UTC)

Entry requirements

Are you sure the information about getting a visa on arrival at land border is updated? Because I cannot find it anywhere else online. Instead it seems like you must get a visa in advance, otherwise you simply cannot get it. —The preceding comment was added by 185.46.214.89 (talk • contribs)

I don't think we would recommend for anyone to visit Syria now; would you? That said, if you know something in any article is wrong, change it! That's how Wikis work. See Wikivoyage:Plunge forward. (Also, please sign posts on talk pages by typing 4 tildes [~] in a row.) Ikan Kekek (talk) 10:01, 19 November 2019 (UTC)

Currency, time and spelling conventions

Below is a proposed infobox to let readers know which formatting conventions to use in Wikivoyage articles. Do you agree with these proposals? If you have direct knowledge of what is most commonly used in the country, please let us know. Ground Zero (talk) 16:53, 9 December 2019 (UTC)

Moved to the top of this article. Ground Zero (talk) 12:44, 28 December 2019 (UTC)

Rojava

How autonomous is Rojava currently?2605:6000:1526:450B:B961:BDB6:3CE:5629 12:15, 6 July 2020 (UTC)

A bit more context

I realize Syria is no tourist destination at this time, but Syria was one of the great civilizations of the ancient world and was also important during the Islamic Golden Age and as part of the Ottoman Empire, so I thought it was really unjust not to summarize those things. Therefore, I tried my hand at it, with reference to a few Wikipedia articles (e.g., w:Syria, w:Aleppo) that I used to confirm information and not to copy from. Ikan Kekek (talk) 05:56, 5 June 2023 (UTC)