Talk:Thatta

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Today I've been to Thatta and I took some panoramas for our article banner. Please help me selecting a good one. Sorry, third and forth banners are not stitched properly as I was in hurry. --Saqib (talk) 16:10, 15 March 2014 (UTC)

Number four would otherwise be great, but the middle section of the building in looks like it's tilted to the left. Therefore I suggest #1. ϒpsilon (talk) 16:19, 15 March 2014 (UTC)

I can ask someone to fix the tilting if you still want to go with #4. --Saqib (talk) 16:28, 15 March 2014 (UTC)

I agree with Ypsilon. #4 or #1. Ikan Kekek (talk) 02:35, 17 March 2014 (UTC)

Okay, I've fixed the tilt of #4. --Saqib (talk) 13:22, 17 March 2014 (UTC)

I too think #4 is great (and see it's already implemented). Vidimian (talk) 14:52, 17 March 2014 (UTC)

Another vote for #4. Pashley (talk) 15:30, 17 March 2014 (UTC)

Off the grid

Banbhore and Keenjhar Lake both are outside the town of Thatta. Banbhore is halfway between Karachi and Thatta whereas Keenjhar Lake between Thatta and Hyderabad. I know our practice is to put the listings in nearby destination article or from where the attraction is most visited but then where I can tell how to get in Keenjhar and Banbhore when the travelling methods such as rickshaws mentioned in "Getting around" section of Thatta are not the way to go there? I was thinking of add a sub-section "Off the grid/Off the beaten bath" under "See" section but this is unorthodox and unacceptable practice but do you guys think there's an alternative to this solution? --Saqib (talk) 21:13, 16 March 2014 (UTC)

I'd perhaps put them in their own subsection(s), titled simply "Banbhore" and "Keenjhar Lake" (or both, as "Banbhore and Keenjhar Lake", if they are too near each other), either at "See" or, if they are too far away from the town, at "Go next". You can also tell about the typical ways to go there in that devoted subsection, or if all else fails, directly at the "Get around" itself (like, "For Keenjhar Lake, take bus #15 from the stop just across the road from the mosque"). Hope this helps. Vidimian (talk) 15:09, 17 March 2014 (UTC)

Thanks for quick help. I've looked at Bali (our exemplar region article) sub-region articles and I realised that attractions that are located out of the cities/towns are instead mentioned in region articles so I did the same here and moved the listings ("Banbhore" and "Keenjhar Lake") to Southern Sindh#See. What do you think about this? --Saqib (talk) 15:17, 17 March 2014 (UTC)

They are OK in either city or region article, depending mostly on transport. If you can walk, take a city bus or a normal taxi ride to them, it is likely better to include them in the city.

Add links wherever that is reasonable; they make it easier for users to find things & help our search engine rank. Create redirects for both places. If they are in region article, link to them from 'Go next' of city. If they are in city, link from 'Other destinations' in region. Pashley (talk) 15:39, 17 March 2014 (UTC)

(Edit conflict) Although adding listings to a region article is something I did myself a few times, the "See" sections of the region articles aren't really meant to have listings, but rather to have an overview of the sights of the given region in prose form (as hinted at Wikivoyage:Region article template#See, and perhaps elsewhere, too). However, I'm not really sure in this case, as there is no city article to contain them... I'd probably just go for the nearest city article. In any rate, I believe it's more important to have the information written down on WV, so it's available to the travellers, and you can always fix the style and structure later. If you decide to keep them in the region article, though, I'd suggest to put pipelinks from the city article to them (such as [[Southern Sind#See|Keenjhar Lake]]), perhaps at the "Go next", so those interested in visiting those sites from Thatta won't miss reading about them, as they may not check the region article otherwise. Vidimian (talk) 15:53, 17 March 2014 (UTC)

@Pashley: you're right, it should depend on transport. From Thatta, one can not go to either of attractions by walk, city bus not even by a rickshaw. One can get there by taxis as taxis can go almost anywhere even if your destination is some 500km away but unfortunately, there're not much taxis in Thatta. @Vidimian: I agree with you that see sections of region articles should not have listings so I'll convert the listings just in the prose form. And yes sure, I'll add links under "Go next". --Saqib (talk) 17:03, 17 March 2014 (UTC)

Minor glitch

The Understand section says there were three dynasties, but only names two. Pashley (talk) 15:42, 17 March 2014 (UTC)

Saqib left an edit summary implying that he will add the third one later, and I also wondered their name. Was it Kalhora or Talpur? Vidimian (talk) 15:58, 17 March 2014 (UTC)

Was it Tarkhan Dynasty? They ruled Sindh, Pakistan, from 1554 to 1591 AD. --Saqib (talk) 16:49, 17 March 2014 (UTC)

It's always great to learn new things—and being from Turkey, Tarkan is a very familiar name to me. :-) Is it now time to complete the un-ended sentence at "Understand" ("...Samma (1335 AD-1520 AD), Arghun (1520 AD-1555 AD) and.")? Vidimian (talk) 13:43, 20 March 2014 (UTC)

Done. --Saqib (talk) 14:08, 20 March 2014 (UTC)

Guide status?

I've marked this as guide status article. I believe this is at guide status but I maybe wrong. Is there anything I'm missing? Btw, I've not put restaurant into listing because all restaurant are nondescript whereas there's only a bazaar worth to visit with no particular place to buy. I think proses should be allowed in both sections please. Any objection? --Saqib (talk) 18:14, 21 March 2014 (UTC)

I copy edited both sections. I think that "Buy" is completely appropriate as prose, but I'm not as sure about "Eat." Some addresses and contact info might be helpful if you've got it, and in that case, some listings might be of some use. Ikan Kekek (talk) 03:30, 18 April 2014 (UTC)

All restaurants I've mentioned all on the same road next to each other on walking distance so addresses of all the restaurants are almost same. --Saqib (talk) 09:36, 18 April 2014 (UTC)

In that case, perhaps what could help most would be a map that shows where that area is. Ikan Kekek (talk) 09:39, 18 April 2014 (UTC)

Okay. I'll create a map by tonight. --Saqib (talk) 09:44, 18 April 2014 (UTC)

Wonderful. Ikan Kekek (talk) 09:48, 18 April 2014 (UTC)

Another thing that would be helpful would be to mention general opening and closing hours for restaurants. That's something a visitor might not know. Ikan Kekek (talk) 09:50, 18 April 2014 (UTC)

Sorry I won't be able to draw a map because I couldn't find a source which shows the restaurants location and even Google Maps is unhelpful here. --Saqib (talk) 14:31, 18 April 2014 (UTC)

That's too bad. I guess Google doesn't actually have complete world-wide coverage. Ikan Kekek (talk) 20:12, 18 April 2014 (UTC)

In terms of businesses listings, yes. --Saqib (talk) 20:27, 18 April 2014 (UTC)

Are you sure that there no more sights to see in Thatta? Two points of interest doesn't seem to not be enough for a city of 220,000 people, especially one with a vivid 600+ year history. Gizza ^(roam) 10:36, 9 January 2019 (UTC)