Talk:Westchester County

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Running[edit]

I've moved Running from the article to the discussion page, as it does not provide any info other than secondary source URLs. See Project:External links and Project:Attraction listings "A link is not a substitute for actual information. Our goals include creating pages useful as printed guides. So, we need to include information that's at the other end of a link, even if it may seem redundant for on-line use." (WT-en) SHC 19:34, 2 May 2006 (EDT)

How many villages and towns are we going to list?[edit]

The standard on this guide is no more than 9. To get a start on pruning the list, I'm moving red links and their descriptions here:

  • Ardsley - this village is part of the town of Greenburg, not be confused with the nearby hamlet of Ardsley-on-Hudson, which is part of the village of Irvington
  • Buchanan - home of the Indian Point nuclear power facility
  • Greenburgh - historic sites in this town include the Romer-Van Tassel House (town hall in 1793), the Church of St. Joseph of Arimathea, the Odell House, and the Spanish American War Monument to the 71st Infantry Regiment.
  • New Castle this town includes the hamlet of Millwood. The Williams-DuBois House and Isaac Young House are listed on the National Register of Historic Places
  • North Salem - mostly rural; rolling hills, horse farms, and apple orchards. The fictitious headquarters of the X-Men superhero team is located in Salem Center.
  • Town of Rye - not the city of Rye, the town of Rye includes Port Chester, Rye Brook and part of Mamaroneck.

Ikan Kekek (talk) 04:10, 9 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Another red link and description:
  • Mount Pleasant township containing Eastview, Hawthorne, Pleasantville, Pocantico Hills, Sleepy Hollow, Thornwood, Valhalla, and part of Briarcliff Manor.
We should keep all the descriptions - they may be useful. But we need to decide how to handle things. I think 9 cities and 9 villages/towns would be fine, unless we want to do 9 cities and 9 parks, but right now, that list of all the villages and towns is too long. Ikan Kekek (talk) 12:07, 25 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Split into subregions?[edit]

As a bottom-level region, Westchester County doesn't have to observe the 7±2 guidline, but with 38 communities, it does seem rather unwieldy. If we want to consider dividing to subregions, the county's tourism website might provide guidance. It has five regions. Any thoughts? --Nelson Ricardo (talk) 00:30, 21 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Subdivision does seem to make sense. Maybe @Ikan Kekek: has advice. Ground Zero (talk) 01:19, 21 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Subdivision is sensible. I'm unsure about their 5 subregions, though. I don't think it makes sense to say that because Peekskill is on the river, it's not in Northern Westchester, and it looks like their "Hudson River Towns" go all the way down to Hastings but not Yonkers. I'll suggest a division off the top of my head, and then I absolutely welcome disagreement and other suggestions:
  • Northwestern Westchester: Peekskill, Cortlandt, Croton-on-Hudson, Ossining, Valhalla, Plesantville, Briarcliff Manor, Chappaqua, Yorktown Heights
  • Northeastern Westchester: Mt. Kisco, Somers, Katonah, Bedford, Pound Ridge, Lewisboro
  • Lower Hudson Valley: Sleepy Hollow, Tarrytown, Dobbs Ferry, Irvington, Hastings-on-Hudson, Yonkers (move Elmsford here?)
  • Sound Shore: Pelham, New Rochelle, Larchmont, Mamaroneck, Rye, Port Chester
  • Lower Interior: Mount Vernon, Bronxville, Tuckahoe, Eastchester, Scarsdale, White Plains, Elmsford, Purchase, Harrison, Rye Brook (the last 3 could be moved to "Sound Shore and environs")
Disclaimer: I lived in Westchester County only for the 3 1/2 years I was in the dorms and on-campus apartments of SUNY at Purchase, that was in the 1980s, but I've hiked, gigged and hung out in many parts of the county and have traveled there and back by train, car and bus and have a fair degree of feel for the lay of the land and different characters of different areas and towns, but I wouldn't insist I know the county better than their tourism bureau! Ikan Kekek (talk) 01:54, 21 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]
@Ikan Kekek: As an interim solution, I created subsections in the Cities section, placing the cities per your list above. Nelson Ricardo (talk) 07:02, 27 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]
That can work, too. Ikan Kekek (talk) 07:07, 27 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]

It looks like that split works. Can we remove the region discussion tag now? Ground Zero (talk) 10:41, 7 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]

If we agree that splitting within the article rather than creating subregion articles is sufficient, then we can remove the tag. The article will remain in the auto-generated Category:Regions with more than 25 subpages. Nelson Ricardo (talk) 15:59, 7 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]
I have no objection. Ikan Kekek (talk) 19:44, 7 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]
I defer to local knowledge on this. If you decided to split the region into subregion articles along those lines, I don't think anyone would object. Ground Zero (talk) 20:15, 7 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Paragraph on the political geography of Westchester[edit]

Very clear explanation, given the complexities, but why is this relevant to travelers? It seems more useful for an article about New York State's geopolitical divisions somewhere other than a travel guide. Your thoughts? Ikan Kekek (talk) 22:22, 27 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]

I tried to read it to understand whether it would be relevant for a travel guide, but I was too bored and gave up half way through. Sorry: I tried. Ground Zero (talk) 22:35, 27 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]
I see. Any suggestions for trimming? I'll give it a go... Nelson Ricardo (talk) 22:44, 27 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]
I've gone ahead and reduced the paragraph to three sentences. Nelson Ricardo (talk) 22:48, 27 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]
I'm sorry if that sounded harsh, but as someone who is not from the county, I don't find that paragraph to be interesting, or relevant for travel. Is there a reason why travellers need this information? Ground Zero (talk) 01:00, 28 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]
As I slog through adding coordinates to listings, I see on the dynamic maps—which have mapshapes of municipal borders—that many listings fall outside the boundaries. Our readers may wonder why this happens, so a brief explanation is in order. Nelson Ricardo (talk) 02:18, 28 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]
In the case of White Plains, I think what would be best would be to state that the article also covers North White Plains and to include that in the white area on the map. Ikan Kekek (talk) 03:29, 28 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]
OpenStreetMap has a "node" for North White Plains, but no "relation", so no borders defined there, so no source for the mapmask. It's not important enough for Wikipedia to give it anything beyond a disambiguation. Nelson Ricardo (talk) 03:48, 28 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]
This is a real weakness of dynamic maps. Ikan Kekek (talk) 04:02, 28 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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