Template talk:Done

Purpose

Is the only purpose of this template to add a little graphic all over the place? LtPowers (talk) 01:41, 6 January 2013 (UTC)

Answer came there none.

It now seems to be widely used, and by the janatorial caste, so I propose that the experimental designation be removed. Who opposes? -- Alice^✉ 01:30, 18 February 2013 (UTC)

LtPowers: Yes.

Alice: Agreed. JamesA ^>talk 01:32, 18 February 2013 (UTC)

Ridiculous. It's completely pointless, needlessly inflates page sizes, and is potentially confusing to new users. LtPowers (talk) 02:08, 18 February 2013 (UTC)

That's a deadlock then, unless and until some different reasoning is expressed; the experimental tag remains. -- Alice^✉ 02:20, 18 February 2013 (UTC)

VfD

This file was nominated for deletion on 11 June 2013 but was kept. The deletion debate is here. Please consider that decision before you re-nominate it.

These templates do nothing but add a little icon before the text "Done" or "Not done" (or custom text if you like). The icons are just pointless decorations; typing the wikitext '''Done''' is just as easy and saves a template call. LtPowers (talk) 13:01, 11 June 2013 (UTC)

• Comment, "Not done" template is totally useless in my opinion, not sure whether "Done" template be deleted. --Saqib (talk) 13:17, 11 June 2013 (UTC)
• Comment - Not done is not necessary, but {{done}} is useful at easily and visually signifying when a request is complete. The instance where I used it (and I presume you noticed it) is probably not the best example. James A ▪ talk 13:28, 11 June 2013 (UTC)

  I noticed it several times yesterday, but yes, your recent use of it was the tipping point. It wasn't anything specific to that use, it was just proof that it was becoming more widespread. That said, since you say it's not the best example, I think it does point out that the presence of the templates inspires laziness and decreases editor engagement. LtPowers (talk) 15:02, 11 June 2013 (UTC)

  A good example of use would be to respond to a request, but in that instance, it was more of a reply to a confirmation to go ahead with the proposal. James A ▪ talk 07:46, 12 June 2013 (UTC)

Majority votes in favour of keeping {{Done}} so are we going to delete {{Not done}} only? --Saqib (talk) 08:43, 24 June 2013 (UTC)

This is not a majority vote. LtPowers (talk) 12:07, 24 June 2013 (UTC)

At least a clear consensus to keep "Done" template. --Saqib (talk) 09:21, 25 June 2013 (UTC)

• Delete per Wikivoyage:Mediawiki templates#New Mediawiki Template proposals. They've been around for a while with the experimental tags, but do not have community consensus behind them. (I agree with LtPowers' rationale against them, for what it's worth.) --Peter ^Talk 17:02, 11 June 2013 (UTC)
• Keep Template:Done, Delete Template:Not done (side note: this should really be separate nominations). Special:WhatLinksHere/Template:Done shows 30 links to the "done" template, it appears to have been used by a variety of users, and it is a fairly standard template for Wikimedia projects, so it seems to have met the "useful" criteria required of experimental templates. Special:WhatLinksHere/Template:Not done shows that template has been implemented in only two places, and thus seems to be of suspect value. -- Ryan • (talk) • 00:04, 12 June 2013 (UTC)

  Used unnecessarily. LtPowers (talk) 15:20, 12 June 2013 (UTC)

• Both of them are pretty standard on Wikimedia projects... but then I can't say that I've ever used either, since we don't have many processes where that would be super helpful like other Wikimedia sites do. --Rschen7754 03:32, 12 June 2013 (UTC)
• Replace with plain text. I would vote to delete them both, as they didn't pass through the proposal process and we traditionally have avoided introducing little doo-dads for discussion pages, but seeing as how the templates are common on other Wikimedia projects, people will probably try to use them. If we just replace them with plain text, we can avoid getting doodads or red links while subtly demonstrating that we don't generally encourage such mini-icons. Texugo (talk) 13:13, 12 June 2013 (UTC)

• Keep since "Both of them are pretty standard on Wikimedia projects" and at worst they are harmless here. We want to make it as convenient as possible for Wikimedians from outside WV to contribute here; there are important policy differences such folk will need to adapt to, like no NPOV and not using citations/external links, but we should avoid creating unnecessary differences. Pashley (talk) 13:24, 12 June 2013 (UTC)

  I think anyone with enough experience on wikis to be declaring certain tasks "Done" on Wikivoyage is smart enough to figure out what to do when one of the world's simplest templates isn't available for stating one of the world's simplest sentences. LtPowers (talk) 15:20, 12 June 2013 (UTC)

• Another comment. I thought we were going to avoid debating templates on the vfd page? That was one of the main reasonings behind {{experimental}}. Shouldn't we just discuss them on the template talk pages? --Peter ^Talk 18:43, 12 June 2013 (UTC)

  Were we? I have trouble keeping track of where consensus is on that. =) LtPowers (talk) 23:08, 12 June 2013 (UTC)

• Keep As Pashley says, they are standard template on wiki projects, furthermore at a very first glance of a discussion page, it's quick to get what has been done and don't. See this page for example where I've used them, also because I think this is the cause of this discussion :-) --Andyrom75 (talk) 09:24, 23 June 2013 (UTC)

Another usage example is Talk:Shanghai#Getting_to_guide.3F. I'm a reader there, not the person inserting them, and I find the green ticks in the table very convenient to track progress. Pashley (talk) 10:08, 25 June 2013 (UTC)

What do the green checks provide that the simple presence or absence of text in that column does not? Really, it seems like we're grasping at straws here. LtPowers (talk) 12:51, 25 June 2013 (UTC)

They're easier to see and do no harm I can think of. I will weigh in on the side of what seems at least a near-consensus to Keep "Done" and Delete "Not done." Ikan Kekek (talk) 13:13, 25 June 2013 (UTC)

• Keep/Delete - Done/Not done, respectively, per above comments. Not done seems pretty much useless. TCN7JM 08:40, 25 June 2013 (UTC)

Consensus: Template:Done Kept, Template:Not done Deleted. --Saqib (talk) 17:43, 25 June 2013 (UTC)