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Nuremberg
[edit]First of all in their infinite wisdom, those who get to decide such things decided to go to a simple four through eight system for the tram line numbers. Second, tram lines do not have a leading "t" in Nuremberg. Can somebody please fix this? Hobbitschuster (talk) 22:33, 3 January 2019 (UTC)
- @Hobbitschuster: I'm not sure I understand what you mean with the first remark, but I have removed the T's identifying tramlines, which were originally added to easily make a distinction between the tram and S-Bahn services, which both have a line 4. The RINT codes have not been updated, and don't really need the updating, but if you wish, I can make an alias for the tramlines, to where
{{rint|nuremberg|t4}}
and{{rint|nuremberg|4}}
both print 4 . I've added the mouse-over information to add context to the lines. I hope this solved the issues you had.
-- Wauteurz (talk) 12:17, 4 January 2019 (UTC)- in the past there was a line nine but - I think - no line seven. Now they switched it to a system where every number between for and eight gets a line... Hobbitschuster (talk) 15:57, 4 January 2019 (UTC)
- {{rint|nuremberg|t7}} still puts out nothing. Hobbitschuster (talk) 21:16, 4 January 2019 (UTC)
- @Hobbitschuster: It should work now. There is a huge difference between the English Wikipedia article on Trams in Nuremberg and the German de:Straßenbahn Nürnberg articles, so I was unaware that line 7 even existed. Line 9 has now been removed (not listed on German article), Line 8 has had its destination tweaked and Line D has been added. This should solve all issues with Nuremberg if I am not mistaken. Documentation has also been changed to meet these changes.
-- Wauteurz (talk) 22:26, 4 January 2019 (UTC)- If I am correctly informed "Line D" is only used for trams that are moving out of or towards the depot. Apparently the IT system needs to call them something and they chose that random letter. Hobbitschuster (talk) 22:33, 4 January 2019 (UTC)
- @Hobbitschuster: It should work now. There is a huge difference between the English Wikipedia article on Trams in Nuremberg and the German de:Straßenbahn Nürnberg articles, so I was unaware that line 7 even existed. Line 9 has now been removed (not listed on German article), Line 8 has had its destination tweaked and Line D has been added. This should solve all issues with Nuremberg if I am not mistaken. Documentation has also been changed to meet these changes.
- {{rint|nuremberg|t7}} still puts out nothing. Hobbitschuster (talk) 21:16, 4 January 2019 (UTC)
- in the past there was a line nine but - I think - no line seven. Now they switched it to a system where every number between for and eight gets a line... Hobbitschuster (talk) 15:57, 4 January 2019 (UTC)
And yes a lot of the Nuremberg public transit stuff on en-wp is outdated and/or badly translated (some of it appears machine translated) Hobbitschuster (talk) 22:34, 4 January 2019 (UTC)
Missing Rail Interchange Template Documentation
[edit]- Swept in from the pub
On the Template:Rail-interchange/doc and Template:Rail-interchange/doc/US pages there is no documentation as to how all of the little images are placed there. For instance, if someone wanted to replace the missing Chicago Metra logo (currently shown by a placeholder black dot), you will search in vain as to how to fix this. Perhaps this information is hidden on a separate page, but shouldn't there be documentation on the template page? Is so, where is the documentation located, and if not, then how does an editor update the images in the template? Zcarstvnz (talk) 13:07, 21 April 2019 (UTC)
- @Zcarstvnz: For editing {{Rail-interchange}} (RINT), you need three things: /doc, {{Rail-interchange}} and {{RbE}}. The first you've found already. It shows the possible public transit labels registered in RINT. The second is RINT, the template that prints the labels, and the third is RbE, which actually creates the labels. Documentation on {{RbE}} is found on the template page itself and will hopefully explain you how to make such a label. It is in fact linked from /doc, although I have to admit that it's easy to read over. /doc/US, which you linked, is a remnant of the old RINT, which was a direct import from Wikipedia. I should probably mark it for deletion. Lastly, please do not add images. I know they are in the template already, but I have yet to convert them into RbE labels. One of RINT's goals is to be independent from sister projects, including commons. A name change there will most likely break the template in some way or another, which is hard for those that edit RINT to spot. I hope this answered your question :)
-- Wauteurz (talk) 13:41, 21 April 2019 (UTC)
- @Wauteurz: Thanks for the information. FYI, it seems like a lot of the info from the /doc/US page is missing from /doc. A tremendous amount of detail would be lost if the /doc/US page was deleted right now. For instance the Chicago elevated system is shown in the /doc, but not the Metra rail line system which is shown in /doc/US. Missing from /doc though is the Chicago Transit Authority (CTA) logo for the el, and neither shows the Metra logo.
- The only reason that I even noticed these pages is that there are already broken file images on both the /doc/US and /doc pages. If you need help creating images, please jump over to my talk page or perhaps you already have something already setup that shows what you need? Zcarstvnz (talk) 14:20, 21 April 2019 (UTC)
- @Zcarstvnz: A lot of things are listed at /doc/US that aren't in RINT at this time, that's true. Every label in RINT should be listed in /doc though. /doc/US will be the outdated one. I haven't looked a lot into the US systems or the North and South American ones for that matter, but will have to do so when I have the time. Like I said, RINT's goal is to be independent from content on sister projects, so I have made some effort towards converting logo's and images into the labels. The broken file links will go someday - don't worry about it. I just haven't come around to fix it all up yet. If you're willing to convert some of these logo's into labels, then be my guest. The only rule of thumb I've had was to take the main colours in the liveries or logo's and convert them into a label fitting in with the rest of the labels on said network. For example: Arriva in the Netherlands runs red/white trains, so its label is ARR , whereas the same company in Czechia uses arriva instead since the liveries there are, from what I can gather, more diverse, so I stuck to the logo's colours instead.
-- Wauteurz (talk) 20:35, 21 April 2019 (UTC)
- @Zcarstvnz: A lot of things are listed at /doc/US that aren't in RINT at this time, that's true. Every label in RINT should be listed in /doc though. /doc/US will be the outdated one. I haven't looked a lot into the US systems or the North and South American ones for that matter, but will have to do so when I have the time. Like I said, RINT's goal is to be independent from content on sister projects, so I have made some effort towards converting logo's and images into the labels. The broken file links will go someday - don't worry about it. I just haven't come around to fix it all up yet. If you're willing to convert some of these logo's into labels, then be my guest. The only rule of thumb I've had was to take the main colours in the liveries or logo's and convert them into a label fitting in with the rest of the labels on said network. For example: Arriva in the Netherlands runs red/white trains, so its label is ARR , whereas the same company in Czechia uses arriva instead since the liveries there are, from what I can gather, more diverse, so I stuck to the logo's colours instead.