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Latest comment: 6 years ago by Ikan Kekek in topic Marketing

Dorit hotel prices

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Thank you for updating the Dorint hotel entry Bad Neuenahr-Ahrweiler but I have to question the price of €59 for a room. I have never got a room in a Dorint hotel in Germany for under €100. Can you show and example of this, there web page starts at €127. --Traveler100 (talk) 16:12, 15 September 2017 (UTC)Reply

Hello, as i am working for the brand i can asure you the price is correct, as stated on the website: https://hotel-bad-neuenahr.dorint.com/en/hotel-rooms-suites/ The stated rates in general are definately available - as well as in other Dorint hotels. —The preceding comment was added by Discotizer (talkcontribs)

Next time I am hiking in the area I will check it out. --Traveler100 (talk) 19:35, 19 September 2017 (UTC)Reply

Default address info

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Hello. Please leave out default info like "53127 Bonn" in the Bonn article. The only exception to this rule that I know of is in the United Kingdom, where postcodes are local enough to help people find a place. Ikan Kekek (talk) 21:08, 15 September 2017 (UTC)Reply

Alright, i have it corrected —The preceding comment was added by Discotizer (talkcontribs)

Belated welcome

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Hello, Discotizer! Welcome to Wikivoyage.

To help get you started contributing, we've created a tips for new contributors page, full of helpful links about policies and guidelines and style, as well as some important information on copyleft and basic stuff like how to edit a page. If you need help, check out Help, or post a message in the travellers' pub. If you are familiar with Wikipedia, take a look over some of the differences here.

I would also recommend being familiar with the page Wikivoyage:Welcome, business owners and the topics link from that page. --Traveler100 (talk) 19:32, 19 September 2017 (UTC)Reply

A welcome from me to, please also have a look at WV:Don't tout and WV:words to avoid to avoid your edits being (partially) reverted. If the hotels you represent have selling points that can be put in clear, factual words, mention them. If you want to inform your readers that (City in which your hotel is located) is beautiful and (popular attraction) is "steps away", please do so on hotel brochures, but not on Wikivoyage. Thank you. Hobbitschuster (talk) 22:04, 19 September 2017 (UTC)Reply
Thank you guys, i've read now all the information you posted and am good to go. —The preceding comment was added by Discotizer (talkcontribs)

Marketing

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You mention above that you work for Dorint. How many Dorint hotels do you plan on adding listings for? Someone who works for a hotel chain is not actually supposed to add any listings of that chain - please see Wikivoyage:Don't tout#Marketers and SEOs for the procedure you are supposed to use.

Also, remember that listings should exclude default address information. Ikan Kekek (talk) 10:06, 5 March 2018 (UTC)Reply

@Ikan: Other mods also discussed this topic on a different page, they agreed that there's no conflict with your rule, as i am adding useful and correct information - like any other person would. If you don't need them (which would contradict the purpose of a wiki) feel free to delete the entries. Today i just updated 3 new hotels with the current information.—The preceding comment was added by Discotizer (talkcontribs)
That's good and in keeping with what's in the link I gave you, which you should read. Here's the relevant portion: "Marketers and paid editors may make factual corrections to existing hotel listings, but these changes should be strictly limited to non-subjective information such as URLs or phone numbers." I haven't found any fault with the content of your listings, but if you plan on adding a large number of new listings, I think that could be an issue, and that's why I asked you the question above. Could you please link the previous discussion you had about adding listings as a hotel marketer? (Also, not to throw too many things at you, but please sign posts on talk pages by typing 4 tildes [~] in a row at the end of each one.) Thanks. Ikan Kekek (talk) 10:32, 5 March 2018 (UTC)Reply
Here it is, i could only find it by changes [] - you need to translate it. Other discussions: []. Of course if would not add hundred or thousands of hotel info, it's just about 40. Discotizer (talk) 10:40, 5 March 2018 (UTC)Reply
Thanks for the links. I'd personally be OK with your listing more hotels in this chain because your listings are fine, but 40 is a substantial number, so I'd ask you to wait for some other users to express an opinion. In theory, I think (though I haven't checked) that the Wikivoyages in all languages are supposed to have the same policies on marketing, but it wouldn't hurt to let a consensus develop here. Ikan Kekek (talk) 10:48, 5 March 2018 (UTC)Reply
No problem, i am on your side with the topic :) Discotizer (talk) 10:51, 5 March 2018 (UTC)Reply
Just to say I am fine with these additions, just a mentioned above keep to facts. Having stayed in a few Dorint hotels they are worth a mention. --Traveler100 (talk) 12:21, 5 March 2018 (UTC)Reply
I did remove the word "luxurious" from one description; see Wikivoyage:Words to avoid - basically, "luxurious" only vaguely describes anything, but the elements of luxury in a particular hotel can be specifically mentioned. Similarly, "modernity" isn't very specific, so it's best to specify what's modern. Ikan Kekek (talk) 13:09, 5 March 2018 (UTC)Reply