Wikivoyage:Nigeria café/Archives/2021/July

Images?

How do I add images and upload onto articles. [asked on my talk page, so I'll paste the reply here as well. The question has however, been partially modified]]:

Answer

Here's just how it works on the source editor.: [[File:|thumb (optional)|left, right or center (pick one)|size px(replace the size with the number|Caption (replace this with the test you want]]

So in this case, if I wanted to add File:Wikivoyage favicon.svg, 100px and on the right side of the page, then I'd be using [[File:Wikivoyage favicon.svg|thumb|right|100px|Wikivoyage]]
and it'll turn out like this:

Wikivoyage

To upload images, go to c:Special:UploadWizard and follow the steps from there, it's pretty guided, and if you want, you could upload certain images from Flickr (depends on copyright license). It may feel daunting at times, but it will get more familiar with time. It's much easier than manually uploading it.

On the visual editor, just copy paste and write a similar code, and hopefully it should work.

--SHB2000 (talk | contribs | en.wikipedia) 09:20, 29 June 2021 (UTC)

My recommendation: unless there is a very good reason to override, specify nothing beyond the file name, thumb, and caption. This allows defaults and user preferences (Special:Preferences#mw-prefsection-rendering) to control the image display for a neater, more uniform appearance throughout.

Nelson's recommendation

Nelson Ricardo (talk) 22:53, 29 June 2021 (UTC)

Yes. If you try to optimise the layout you will generally optimise for your display and browser only, and people with other equipment or other habits will actually get a worse layout. There are many pitfalls also if you try to cover some other setups. –LPfi (talk) 09:15, 1 July 2021 (UTC)

Pagebanner

Moved from Talk:Awka
The pagebanner is 7:1, but not as required in Wikivoyage:Banners, which says:

Banners should be as wide as possible and need to be at least 1800 pixels wide in order to accommodate wide screens. The recommended minimum dimensions are 2100 x 300 pixels.

Only few images at c:Category:Awka are wide enough to make a 7:1 and >2100 banner. This one could make a nice banner, but I think recognizable faces would not allow it. --FredTC (talk) 10:26, 29 June 2021 (UTC)

@FredTC: I'm moving this to the Wikivoyage:Nigeria café since I'm hoping we got more responses there. SHB2000 (talk | contribs | en.wikipedia) 11:13, 29 June 2021 (UTC)

@SHB2000: Thx for moving. --FredTC (talk) 11:18, 29 June 2021 (UTC)

Hopefully this gets more replies :) SHB2000 (talk | contribs | en.wikipedia) 11:19, 29 June 2021 (UTC)

Usually I'd say that the people on such images have no expectation on privacy and thus the image can be used, but with a page banner I think we should be more cautious. Hopefully somebody will take or find a suitable image without that issue. Was that the question for which you wanted more opinions? –LPfi (talk) 09:19, 1 July 2021 (UTC)

Itineraries

And getting into itineraries, I'll get into what is an itinerary?

Well, and itinerary should be a planned trip aiding the reader taking them new places a day. This can be cycle paths (long ones, at least more than 80km at the lowest), drives, or walking tours.

And now here's what an itinerary should contain. It's quite different to any of the other formats, but here's the main crucial bits:

1. Understand. The understand section needs to be convincing enough for someone to use that itinerary. Just blurting out facts isn't going to help the traveller in going there in the first place.
2. Get in. Like with city articles, a get in is a must. Without knowing how to get in, a traveller needs to do more planning, and hence get in being one of the most crucial bits to get an article usable.
3. Go/Walk/Drive/Ride. It needs to have a list of all the places one would want to go in order of direction (east to west, north to south or whatever) and should explain how to get from one place to another and how long it's likely to take. There's a template below that you could use for the distance, time and routes taken:

===Place A to B===
'''Distance''' (use km, miles aren't necessarily needed, but you can use the convert template if you want)
'''Time taken''' Should be an approximate estimate of time needed, perhaps excluding stops but then saying so explicitly. Perhaps 240 km → "4 hr by car. Add time for rest and sightseeing stops."
'''Routes taken''' Walking paths, trails, bike paths, roads, train routes, ferry routes, tram routes or whatever is needed in that section of the itinerary
'''Speed limit''' If it's a road and the reader would be expected to drive at that speed. For rough roads, for cycling and for walking more commentary is needed. If the route is a bus, train, tram or ferry route, then just omit this section out.

Then here, you write about all the places you see, do, go, eat, drink, sleep buy all in order in order of direction (E to W, N to S, SE to NE or whatever)

What must not have its own section in itineraries are eat, sleep, drink, see or do. While these may be the crucial bits of city or park or whatever, these all come under the Go/Walk/Drive/Ride. If there are special considerations that apply throughout the itinerary, subsections could be added under Understand or Prepare, but that is not common.

Any questions, queries or anything, feel free to pop in my talk page and leave a message.

Cheers! --SHB2000 (talk | contribs | en.wikipedia) 08:30, 30 June 2021 (UTC)

(Some edits above by me. –LPfi (talk) 09:49, 1 July 2021 (UTC))

 :) SHB2000 (talk | contribs | en.wikipedia) 09:53, 1 July 2021 (UTC)

Yola

Pinging @Ground Zero, LovelyChizzy:.

LovelyChizzy, We need to get your attention with coordinates in the article and where you got them from. Because they're not in the right spot. Have you had a look at Ground Zero's comment in Talk:Yola. Because we need to fix this issue urgently - any one of the 69 readers since this article was created would be confused. SHB2000 (talk | contribs | en.wikipedia) 02:48, 1 July 2021 (UTC)

That latitude and longitude are switched. --Comment by Selfie City (talk | contributions) 11:14, 1 July 2021 (UTC)

While I'd usually be wondering how do you get them mixed up, Nigeria lies about +7-9 both latitude and longitude so I completely understand how some of them are mixed up. SHB2000 (talk | contribs | en.wikipedia) 11:19, 1 July 2021 (UTC)

But I still don't understand Damaturu. SHB2000 (talk | contribs | en.wikipedia) 11:20, 1 July 2021 (UTC)

How do you move pages?

This was asked on Talk:Oguta Lake, and I think it is a good question.

The process is quite simple, but complicated at first. First up, you'd have to understand the different kinds of spaces there. You don't need to know all of them, but there's four particular ones you need to know; Main, User, Template and Wikivoyage. File isn't really important unless you're a file mover, and there's only one member of this cafe who's a file mover on commons and free files shouldn't be uploaded here in the first place. There's a list of all the options with it

Before you do anything, pick which space you'll need to move it into. Most of the time, moves are from your userspace to main, or if you do a lot of work with templates like myself here, move from userspace to template. Keep this in mind.

So step one, click the More button on your top right corner. Unfortunately, mine here in the image will look slightly different since I've got some global gadgets enabled, but you can find it.

More button

Step two, click the move button. Click the move button (mine has nothing in it, but it seems to work on the main page). Here's an image below.

Move button

Step three, here's where which space you'll want it in matters. From the list below, pick which one it is, if you're moving the page because the page name is incorrect or anything, you don't need to worry. This step mostly applies if you're drafting an article in your sandbox and want to move it to mainspace. Similarly, if you want to move a page between your userspace, (such as User:Foo/sandbox/Saki town to User:Foo/sandbox/Shaki town), leave it as User. It would automatically prefix the User: at the start of the pagename.

Namespaces that you can choose from

Step four, change the name to what you want to move it to. Really, there's nothing else in this step.

Step five, add the reason for your page move to the reason box. Don't write "Added content" though. And then click move. The page is moved. It may be confusing at first, and that was how I felt at the start of the year, but I've got the hang of it. Any questions, queries, or comments. Pop in a message on my talk page or below. I'll be sure to answer them ASAP.

It's also important to note that when moving a page, it moves the talk page along with it. The wikidata item will also be automatically updated.

--SHB2000 (talk | contribs | en.wikipedia) 09:15, 4 July 2021 (UTC)

Article status

Does the status ratings for articles update automatically or they have to be done manually? —The preceding comment was added by Timmylegend (talk • contribs)

It is done manually. We recently drafted an explanation about this at Wikivoyage:Article status. --Comment by Selfie City (talk | contributions) 23:02, 17 July 2021 (UTC)

Manually, but anyone can upgrade it, with the exception of guide to star. That goes in Wikivoyage:Star nominations. SHB2000 (talk | contribs | meta.wikimedia) 23:19, 17 July 2021 (UTC)

Thank you for the clarification. Timmylegend (talk) 10:52, 25 July 2021 (UTC)