Wikivoyage talk:Past events/World Cup 2018

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I have created this article with text largely copied from the corresponding Wikipedia article. Ground Zero (talk) 13:32, 20 March 2018 (UTC)

Well, I guess someone should do a proper import of the version history then? Is there a place like w:WP:IMP somewhere around here? --El Grafo (talk) 09:54, 27 March 2018 (UTC)

Looking at the articles again, I think that "largely copied" is inaccurate. I selected bits and pieces of the Wikipedia article, and adapted it for Wikivoyage? I don't think an import of the version history is needed, but I wanted to give credit to Wikipedia as being the primary source. Ground Zero (talk) 12:45, 27 March 2018 (UTC)

World Cup 2018

Swept in from the pub

As we get closer to the tournament, it is likely that the World Cup page, Russia, the 11 host cities, and the 13 districts articles for Moscow and Saint Petersburg will all see increases in traffic. To anyone interested, there are 26 articles altogether that we should improve and tidy up as World Cup fever takes over much of the globe.

On the bright side, every one of these articles has a custom banner though many of them have empty sections and/or dead links that we ought to update. Gizza ^(roam) 01:08, 8 June 2018 (UTC)

In my opinion it's a seriously overhyped event, unworthy of all the attention it's receiving. Feel free to make improvements and edits, but I don't think a World Cup Expedition is justified for this. ArticCynda (talk) 08:20, 8 June 2018 (UTC)

Obviously not every person is interested in the event but that's the case with everything in life. I suggested this because whenever destinations are in the news and spotlight, for good or bad, they tend to get more views and quite often people reading Wikivoyage for the first time. It's the case with other sporting events, music festivals, natural disasters, terror attacks, or anything else. If there are new readers of these articles, we have an opportunity to leave a good impression and make them long-term users of Wikivoyage. Gizza ^(roam) 11:15, 8 June 2018 (UTC)

Yes, the World Cup will come and go in a few short weeks, so any event-specific pages will be dead stock. But if we take it as a prompt to update existing relevant WV pages, this has lasting value and may attract new readers and contributors. The fans have long ago sorted out getting there and accommodation, it’s a visa requirement. They don’t need tips about the football, they have their own better sources. They may appreciate non-commercial advice on getting around, eating & drinking, and see & do.

Time is short as the event kicks off on 14 June. I suggest the priority for EN-WV will be those cities where group-stage matches are being played by English-speaking nations. So, Australia play in Kazan, Samara and Sochi, while England play in Volgograd, Nizhny Novgorod and Kaliningrad. Just six to go at, let’s take one apiece.

As proposer, bags-I Kazan, since I’ve been there in the last 12 months, and I’ve started overhauling that page. (Inflated prices are a difficulty, these will need revisiting after the event.) Any takers for the other five? Grahamsands (talk) 09:56, 9 June 2018 (UTC)

Further to that, all games in Kazan are now complete. I've therefore reduced all mentions of the World Cup there to historical, and the stadium is simply the home of the city football team in "Do". There's more to do on that page, but it relates to the city not the event. Do we have any feedback on relevant usage of WV around the World Cup, eg on host city pages compared to other Russian cities?

I was surprised on starting editing to find no mention of the stadium, though it's a big affair completed in 2013. This would be a credibility problem for any soccer fan that chanced upon the page. And if he read on, about Kazan Kremlin, he'd shriek with derision as the one thing he already knew was that the Kremlin is in Moscow. It would be good, before autumn, to check that all the major European stadiums have been included: who plays there in what league, brief facts and figures, where it is and how to get there. By and by I'll start on the Russian stadiums, input on others appreciated. Grahamsands (talk) 20:36, 6 July 2018 (UTC)

Right, game over. All mentions on Russia & city pages should now be just historical. For all the cities in Russia with big football clubs I've added a one-liner: what they're called, where they play, how to get there. (This was all to hand on WP.) The other point of lasting interest was the "supporters visa" temporarily available. Actually this was just the best known of the "special events" visa system, with dozens upcoming listed on the Embassy website, so I've tweaked Russia:Get In. Other work still to do: Volgograd & Rostov are little better than stubs, and a bit more to do for Kazan. And try to find some enthusiasm for Go next: Qatar. Grahamsands (talk) 15:07, 16 July 2018 (UTC)

So glad the madness is finally over, not a day too early! ArticCynda (talk) 21:56, 16 July 2018 (UTC)