Talk:Brisbane

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Research links

The following external links were removed from the Brisbane article because they do not follow the Project:External links guidelines and are not relevant to the Brisbane article. They may help contributors. -- (WT-en) Huttite 06:55, 11 Jan 2006 (EST)

• Whereis - has extensive mapping of South East Queensland, and the rest of Australia. Also has directions search capability
• Multimap - as above
• Tourism Australia - not specifically related to Brisbane, but has information on tourism in Australia in general.
• Destination Queensland
• Tourism Queensland - the official guide to Queensland
• Tourism Queensland - Tourism Queensland corporate
• What's On in Brisbane - Brisbane events, festivals, performing arts, markets, galleries and museums, as well as local TV and movie guides
• Citysearch Brisbane - event guide (but by no means exhaustive) to Brisbane
• Brisbane Weather - 7 day forecast, current conditions and radar.
• Wissie.org - A new project which aims at collecting detailed information about entertainment opportunities in Brisbane and the Gold Coast in a Wiki

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Nice panorama, but it shows Brisbane on a very dreary, overcast day. Not very welcoming and is counter to what the article says about Brisbane being a sunny, vibrant city. Could a more vibrant image be used? —The preceding comment was added by EmbersLucent (talk • contribs) 02:56, 17 August 2013 (UTC)

On this point also, why is there a picture of Brisbane during the peak of the 2011 flood from the William Jolly Bridge? It's not a very inviting image and shows a bleak city with an awful river. Surely we can insert some nice images of the city into this article?

Districts?

This really looks like it nheeds to be districted and districts are already in place. Its loads of work, anyone up for it? Keep smiling, (WT-en) ee ^talk 19:52, 5 November 2008 (EST).

What are you, the district cheerleader? :) – (WT-en) cacahuate ^talk 03:36, 7 November 2008 (EST)

What it really needs is some more photo's to break up the huge blocks of text - then I think it's fine :) (WT-en) Sertmann 03:46, 7 November 2008 (EST)

Haha, Caca, I just see lotsa info. Sertman, I agree more photos is definitely needed:)! Keep smiling, (WT-en) ee ^talk 10:23, 7 November 2008 (EST).

Well the article has grown quite a bit since 2008. I think it's time to split this article into Districts. --(WT-en) Anewcleardawn 21:46, 8 September 2011 (EDT)

It would be great if you could propose a district plan. I am ready to help with a map. --(WT-en) burmesedays 22:16, 8 September 2011 (EDT)

Well, I think it's clear that I don't have the time or will to do this! Someone else would probably do a better job anyway. --(WT-en) Anewcleardawn 09:12, 14 April 2012 (EDT)

CBD/Foritude Valley and New Farm/South Brisbane, East Brisbane, West End/Paddington, Milton and Toowong/Northern suburbs/Eastern suburbs/Southern suburbs/Western suburbs

• CBD/Valley
• South Brisbane/South Bank/West End
• New Farm/Newstead
• Gabba/East Brisbane/Kangaroo Point
• St Lucia, Indooroopilly, Milton, Paddington

And then the outer suburbs and bayside need their own article.

Have added in the districts. Any issues with the regions? The article now needs a district map, to be cleaned up and the district articles written. --EmbersLucent (talk) 02:50, 17 August 2013 (UTC)

I'm not sure that wasn't premature.

If you look at each of our "new" district articles, they seem a bit sparse, don't they?

The CBD, Inner North, Inner South, Inner West, Inner East, West End & St. Lucia, Bayside and Outer Suburbs.

Our polite new editor @Kid Self: has begun to create these districts of Brisbane pages, but even he seems to have struggled to find sufficient glittering prose to add to even the district described as " Brisbane's ultimate entertainment and restaurant district". --118.93nzp (talk) 11:07, 30 January 2014 (UTC)

I don't really doubt that Brisbane probably needs to be districted, but usually we have a discussion about the best way to do that before creating districts willy-nilly that may have gaps or overlaps. User:Kid Self has just created the following districts:

• Brisbane/Bayside and Outer Suburbs
• Brisbane/Inner East
• Brisbane/Inner North
• Brisbane/Inner West
• Brisbane/Inner South
• Brisbane/West End and St. Lucia
• Brisbane/CBD

So, I guess the questions to answer are:

• Is this a reasonable number of districts for this size city?
• Are they reasonably named?
• Do they cover the whole city with no gaps?
• Do they overlap in any way? (they should not)
• Where are the boundaries?

Once we figure all that out, we need a districts section in the article, and hopefully a map showing where these districts are. Texugo (talk) 17:36, 30 January 2014 (UTC)

Actually, our new editor @Kid Self: did us a service by attempting to point out the inadequacy of district articles that had either not yet been created or were boney skeletons after this edit by @EmbersLucent: that (prematurely?) districtified Brisbane into this:

Districts

Like most Australian capital cities, Brisbane features a large urban sprawl with many different areas having their own unique features and characteristics.

View of Brisbane from Kangaroo Point.

The CBD Where business and leisure are intermingled throughout lush parklands and vibrant architecture.

Inner North (Fortitude Valley, New Farm, Newstead and Spring Hill) This is Brisbane's ultimate entertainment and restaurant district.

Inner South (South Bank and South Brisbane) Cultural hub featuring premier art venues, restaurants, markets and Australia's only beach in the middle of a city.

Inner West (Paddington, Milton, Mt. Coot-tha and surrounding suburbs) Trendy hotspots including Paddington, Milton and Rosalie with stunning views of the whole region from Mt. Coot-tha.

Inner East (East Brisbane, Kangaroo Point and Woolloongabba) Inner-city cliffs, outdoors activities and home of The Gabba Stadium.

West End & St. Lucia West End is Brisbane's bohemian hub with unique eateries and alternative locals, and just across the river is The University of Queensland; the campus itself being visually stunning.

Bayside and Outer Suburbs Where the locals live! Unique areas in their own right.

--118.93nzp (talk) 22:44, 30 January 2014 (UTC)

It is hard to say if Brisbane needs dividing up into regions..

I would say the article does not have sufficient content in terms of 'See' and 'Do' at present to adequately fill respective district articles.

On the other hand, it has no shortage of restaurant and bar listings which could easily fill in district articles.

I would say that if an emotionally stable editor who has knowledge of Brisbane would like to work on this this then by all means districts can be defined (I only have had one week in the city myself). Otherwise I would leave it 'as is' for now. Andrewssi2 (talk) 03:29, 31 January 2014 (UTC)

It is indeed a puzzle.

Texugo is right if he is suggesting from a theoretical Wikivoyage standpoint that a capital city like Brisbane, with more than two million residents should be capable of sustaining sub-districts. However, I do disagree with the theoretical approach that - once we've thrashed out names and boundaries - we should plunge forward and districtify. Since there are so few suburban things to do and see, such a theoretical approach would not serve the traveller by leading to the main Brisbane article being gutted and hollowed out, leading to a situation where folks effectively first have to click on Brisbane and then again on The CBD to see where to eat, see, do or sleep, etc.

If we had enough interested editors, my approach would be to first agree the names and boundaries as suggested by Texugo, then get a map drawn but then pause until such time as we'd been able to prepare substantial draft articles (perhaps in user namespace).

In essence, over the past decade, I've just seen too many theoretical districtification schemes fail for want of sufficient material. My approach is more pragmatic - only districtify when the shear volume of material forces it. --118.93nzp (talk) 05:01, 31 January 2014 (UTC)

I'm not familiar with Brisbane, but I just want to point out that Karachi is much more populous, yet a decision was made not to districtify that city on this site. So the mere fact that Brisbane has a population of over 2,000,000 is not per se a reason to districtify. Ikan Kekek (talk) 05:38, 31 January 2014 (UTC)

Since the discussion appears stalled, I'm going to redirect the pages back to Brisbane for now in order to prevent anyone accidentally hitting a page with no content when they need to look at Brisbane. The redirects can be changed if these pages are actually required in future. Andrewssi2 (talk) 06:31, 5 February 2014 (UTC)

Good thinking. --118.93nzp (talk) 08:09, 5 February 2014 (UTC)

Brisbane

Moved from 'Vandalism in Progress' page

I'm uncomfortable about the structural edits that Special:Contributions/Kid_Self (a new user) is making. (Creating new articles with no template. Deleting content from main article)

I have asked him/her to talk on the Brisbane discussion page.

I'm just raising this concern early to any admins who may be online. Thanks. Andrewssi2 (talk) 10:37, 30 January 2014 (UTC)

Just to be clear, I don't think this is intentional vandalism but wasn't sure where else to alert this. Andrewssi2 (talk) 10:42, 30 January 2014 (UTC)

In my opinion, this user is here in good faith, though a block may have to be used as an absolute last resort if we are unable to communicate with them. --Rschen7754 10:45, 30 January 2014 (UTC)

Agreed. We will see if they respond. Andrewssi2 (talk) 10:49, 30 January 2014 (UTC)

Good faith? he's abusing! --Saqib (talk) 10:57, 30 January 2014 (UTC)

It's good that you've alerted us to these important changes, Andrew.

If we're true to our wiki culture, we'll adopt a waiting brief and see where this leads; it may be that the new editor has great and fully-worked out plans to be made, it may be that they haven't. Being a wiki, we can reverse any changes as needed in due course. I do agree that it would have been easier if they had perhaps created some model pages in user space and then asked on the article discussion page for comments on the proposed new structure... It's good to see Rschen7754 state that "a block... an absolute last resort...". --118.93nzp (talk) 10:57, 30 January 2014 (UTC)

OK, I know sometimes people can be touchy, however I don't believe this vulgar response was required Andrewssi2 (talk) 11:01, 30 January 2014 (UTC)

That is not appropriate, and I've warned the user not to do it again. --Rschen7754 11:07, 30 January 2014 (UTC)

I won't attempt to interact with them anymore. Good luck. Andrewssi2 (talk) 11:11, 30 January 2014 (UTC)

Appropriate aside, such comments not acceptable here. --Saqib (talk) 11:13, 30 January 2014 (UTC)

I moved this discussion here from the Vandalism in progress page. Andrewssi2 (talk) 08:26, 10 February 2014 (UTC)

Images and Edits

Hopefully no one is too touchy this time, but I added a bunch of images to try breaking up text and making it easier for casual browsers to quickly move to the right section without having to read too much (e.g. you can quickly recognise the section on public transport 'cos there's an image of a bus). Added a little more info for the Brisbane Festival (saying when it was), and a number of annual parades. If anyone wants to add/subsitute further images there's a good selection (not just mine) available on the Brisbane category page over at Wiki Commons - which might be useful for illustrating locations. With luck I haven't overdone stuff, but if any feedback then let me know. Bald white guy (talk)

Greetings, bald, white guy from another of your ilk (presumably) half a world away)!

Interesting idea with the images. We used to have very nice and useful multi-level table of contents here until they were (unnecessarily?) nuked by the eye-candy "banners" at the top of each page, so this may well help... --W. Frank^email_talk 13:16, 18 September 2014 (UTC)

Cool. Thanks for the feedback. Yes - I have some misgivings about the banner at the top (as a Brisbanite I'm in agreement with one of the other comments about it being good to have something more picturesque ... but at this point I can't really replace it with anything better. I might try having a look at some of the text - as the current intro reads like a very old tourist brochure. Bald white guy (talk)

Guide/DotM

With all the improvements by User:Nickw25, this article is at least very close to Guide status, and fast becoming a viable Destination of the Month candidate. I notice that there are still 9 footnote-style external links. Are there any other obvious improvements that need to be done before we consider this a Guide and prepare it for DotM nomination? Ikan Kekek (talk) 21:02, 10 January 2016 (UTC)

Airport info should be summarized

There really is no point in having a Brisbane Airport article if all the same information is in Brisbane#By plane. I turned the section through the end of "Transferring between terminals" into a summary, but I'd like someone else to try their hand at the rest. Ikan Kekek (talk) 07:31, 30 May 2018 (UTC)

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Districts

I am failing to understand why it is not distrified here? Brisbane is Australia's largest city in area, not population, and yet small Gold Coast which only holds 25% of Brissie's population is distrified. So here's my proposed districts:

• Brisbane (metro) (the metro area only, which does not include Logan, Ipswich or Moreton Bay)
• Logan City (Queensland) → Brisbane/Logan
• A new Brisbane/Moreton Bay article
• Ipswich (Queensland) → Brisbane/Ipswich

I think that is good for now, but if we have any editors from Brissie here, then we may choose to introduce smaller districts, but this seems good to me now. SHB2000 (talk | contribs | meta.wikimedia) 03:22, 16 July 2021 (UTC)

Did you read #Districts? above? Ikan Kekek (talk) 05:04, 16 July 2021 (UTC)

I read it. But I note that that is only Brisbane and not Greater Brissie. SHB2000 (talk | contribs | meta.wikimedia) 05:23, 16 July 2021 (UTC)

Please lay out your plans. About how many listings per proposed district? Ikan Kekek (talk) 05:34, 16 July 2021 (UTC)

Almost a year later, this has now been implemented in Greater Brisbane. SHB2000 (talk | contribs | meta.wikimedia) 13:37, 13 June 2022 (UTC)

Is Brisbane the most 'forward-thinking' capital city?

"Despite this rapid development, it maintains a youthful enthusiasm and is arguably one of the most laid-back and forward-thinking of any Australian capital city"

This is probably going to go down to a mix a definitions and subjectivity, but surely Canberra is the post progressive Australian capital city? (The only place to vote 'yes' in the recent referendum).

Perhaps someone will tell me that Canberra/ACT is not a State and hence doesn't qualify, but I think from a travelling perspective Canberra would be it. Additionally, I'm not sure Brisbane is more progressive than Melbourne, but at the very least it would be very close. @SHB2000. - Andrewssi2 (talk) 21:20, 18 February 2024 (UTC)

I'm guessing this sentiment comes from the fact that three of Brisbane's inner federal electorates, Brisbane, Griffith and Ryan (I think it was Ryan? I need to double check) and 3 of the nearby seats in BCC are held by Labor (only Bonner is held by the Coalition). Personally, I think it's up to a matter of debate on whether it's BCC or Canberra (definitely not Melbourne or Sydney, though – their outer areas are very conservative). The same three Greens federal electorates in Brisbane are also the only three to vote Yes while all of Canberra voted yes. I think it's best to just remove the sentence given how debatable it is. --SHB2000 (talk | contribs | meta) 07:41, 19 February 2024 (UTC)