Talk:Côte d'Ivoire

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Update since the CIA's article

The CIA information article ends before September 2002, when dissatisfied northerners (many of Burkinabe origin, discriminated against as 'foreigners') launched a coup attempt on President Gbagbo. The coup failed, but the rebels succeeded in taking the northern and western parts of the country, which is still partitioned. Travel is possible in the southern half - which offers the most rewarding possibilities for travel - but there are numerous roadblocks at which bribes often have to be paid. The roads are, however, in a reasonable state, although some become impassable in the rainy season.

Update since that was written

Introduction

This information is based on the United Kingdom's Foreign and Commonwealth Office webpage. I think the information on the wikivoyage Ivory Coast page understates the hazards of the country considerably.--(WT-en) Lionfish 09:44, 20 Apr 2005 (EDT) (15:45BST)

January 2004

• New forces rejoined government.

March 2004

• PDCI accuse Gbagbo of stalling the reconciliation discussions. They stop participation in the meetings.
• 25th: Pro-Marcoussis parties (PDCI and RDR) demonstrate on the streets. Over 100 people died in the resulting repression by the security forces.
• Other parties join PDCI Boycott

April 2004

• UN Peace-keeping force (UNOCI) began entering country

August 2004

• Accra III accord signed: Requiring the president to pass all LMA legislation by October and to start the reintegration of the two parts of the country.

September 2004

• UN Peace-keeping force in place (6000 troops)

October 2004

• LMA legislation not yet passed. Reintegration not begun.

November 2004

• 4th: Ivorian Government military fighter planes dropped bombs on rebel stronghold of Bouake.
• 6th: During an Ivorian Government airstrike on a French military base (near Bouake), 9 French peace keepers killed and the Ivorian plane was shot down.
• 6th-8th: Ivorian and French troops had multiple clashes in and around the city of Abidjan. Militia groups also attacked foreign businesses and homes.
• 7th-8th: 8000 foreign nationals (mostly British and French) were evacuated by their respective embassies.
• President Mbeki tried to resolve crisis with a 'roadmap' with little success.

December 2004

• UN Security Council passed Resolution 1572. This condemned the actions of the goverment and endorsed the Accra III agreements. Arms embargos and travel bans were also imposed.

February 2005

• Skirmishes in the Zone of Confidence

March 2005

• Clashes intesified in the Zone of Confidence
• All parties agreed to fresh set of talks in Pretoria in April

April 2005

• 1st: Operations at the British Embassy in Abidjan were suspended

--(WT-en) Lionfish 09:44, 20 Apr 2005 (EDT) (15:45BST)

FCO Advise

The FCO has designated the Ivory Coast as one of only three countries it advises against all travel to. It no longer provides diplomatic representation in the country. Many other countries have also withdrawn their embassies.

--(WT-en) Lionfish 09:44, 20 Apr 2005 (EDT) (15:45BST)

Things to see and do

There are attractive and swimmable beaches at Assignie, beautiful old colonial buildings at Grand Bassam, more coastal resorts around Sassandra, while Abidjan is a fun and vibrant city, albeit one that erupts in tension from time to time. Yammoussoukro is well worth a visit, boasting a cathedral with the largest basilica in the world, a game park, and a presidential palace at which the sacred crocodiles can be fed. The most unique attractions remain the annual Man mask festival and the Tai (Tye-ee) rainforest where it remains easy to see chimpanzees. Since both of these are generally unreachable because of the partition of the country, this is not, therefore, the best time to visit Cote d'Ivoire and a visit to neighbouring Ghana is likely to be rather more rewarding.

Totally disagree about Ghana being more rewarding. They are culturally totally different countries. If you want a better level of security the closest to CdI is probably Senegal (WT-en) BozMo

Naming of Article

Shouldn't the article be under "Ivory Coast"? I am pretty sure Cote d'Ivoire is not the common English name of the country.

The UK's Foreign office calls it: "Ivory Coast (Côte d'Ivoire)"

The name was officially changed in 1985, 23 years ago, and unlike The Country Formerly Known As Burma there's no political dispute over it. (WT-en) Jpatokal 02:11, 3 January 2008 (EST)

Isn't the basilica the 2nd largest, not the largest?

Yeah, what they pointed out. -- (WT-en) Sapphire • (Talk) • 19:43, 2 January 2008 (EST)

I'll bet "Ivory Coast" is still more commonly used in English. This thread was hardly conclusive in proving otherwise. Ikan Kekek (talk) 19:09, 1 February 2019 (UTC)

I'm a little late to this thread, but I've always called the country as Côte d'Ivoire. Typing "cote d'ivoire" on Google yields over 219 million results while typing "ivory coast" only yielded me 189 million results. FWIW, most English-speaking governments' foreign affairs page (including the Australian, Canadian, the NZ, and the US governments) exclusively use "Côte d'Ivoire". --SHB2000 (talk | contribs | meta) 08:19, 5 October 2022 (UTC)

The UK government now refers to it as Côte d'Ivoire in its travel advice. Davidbstanley (talk) 09:28, 11 October 2022 (UTC)

Where to put the Ramadan template

Right now, that template is hanging down well below the end of the article. Should it be put in "Understand"? Ikan Kekek (talk) 00:40, 17 May 2017 (UTC)

It still is. I would support having it only in the Ramadan article, as this is a problem everywhere. In Understand it would need to replace the image – or the quickbar – like in many other articles. We don't have an infobox on the Easter in every Christian country. Instead write a sentence or a few on how Ramadan affects the traveller in this specific location and link the Ramadan article for the dates and more comprehensive general information. –LPfi (talk) 10:10, 11 October 2022 (UTC)

Steer clear of Cote d'Ivoire?

From the "Get around" section of the article:

Most Western governments recommend that their citizens steer clear of Côte d'Ivoire.

Do they?

Here's the US State Department advisory. It is summarized in the first sentence:

Exercise increased caution in Cote d’Ivoire due to crime and terrorism.

Here is the Canadian government's advice:

Exercise a high degree of caution in Côte d’Ivoire due to crime and the prevalent insecurity in certain regions such as the area bordering Liberia.

Avoid non-essential travel to to the four western regions within 50 km of the border with Liberia—the Cavally, Guémon, San Pedro and Tonkpi regions—where there is a risk of armed attacks.

Someone else can look up other advisories, but I'm doubting that most Western governments are saying to stay away from the country, period. Ikan Kekek (talk) 09:16, 18 December 2018 (UTC)

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The mosque [basilica] is still copyrighted and there is no freedom of panorama in Côte d'Ivoire. If we want an image, we have to upload it locally under fair use. The files are deleted on Commons, but an admin may allow temporary undeletion to let us upload locally. –LPfi (talk) 19:47, 26 January 2021 (UTC)

I was mistaken, it was an earlier load that was deleted. If we hurry, we can download candidates to upload locally. Do we want this or a similar image in the article as fair use? –LPfi (talk) 19:50, 26 January 2021 (UTC)

You mean the basilica. Yes, we should have a photo of it, as long as it can be considered fair use. Ikan Kekek (talk) 19:52, 26 January 2021 (UTC)

Uploaded (the photo currently in use in the two articles). –LPfi (talk) 21:48, 26 January 2021 (UTC)

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No FoP. Seems to be a clear case. It is not currently used on this page, but could be uploaded locally for use at Yamoussoukro. –LPfi (talk) 08:54, 30 June 2021 (UTC)

Needs to be locally uploaded. SHB2000 (talk | contribs | en.wikipedia) 09:18, 30 June 2021 (UTC)

Done. –LPfi (talk) 08:13, 1 July 2021 (UTC)

:) SHB2000 (talk | contribs | en.wikipedia) 08:27, 1 July 2021 (UTC)

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Currency

In this edit some information was deleted. The move, according to w:West African CFA franc, is now scheduled for 2027, at which appropriate time we can update the currency information. At this point, I agree with the IP that with 2027 being five years away, this information isn't relevant to the traveler. --Comment by Selfie City (talk) (contributions) 23:02, 20 September 2022 (UTC)