Talk:Cancún
I changed "Mexican: Cancún" to "Spanish: Cancún". Can-Cún is from the Mayan Can/Nest - Cun/Snake, so it means Snake's Nest.) Mexican is a equivalent to Nahuatl, the language of the "Aztecs", which is totally different from Spanish, which is the language Spoken in México and all other Spanish speaking countries.
I guess that Cancún is probably of native origin, but it's probably most correct to call words using in Mexico "Spanish" rather than "Mexican". Somebody correct me if I'm wrong. --(WT-en) Evan 14:28, 26 May 2004 (EDT)
Mexico is in North America, not Central America. Move the article? (WT-en) Deirdre Golash 21:40, 4 Feb 2005 (EST)
Cancun is Mayan. It was originally spelled Cancu-en. There's no real reason for the accent, which was added at some unknown point when the resort was under construction. The emphasis falls on the second syllable naturally, as it's supposed to in Spanish. Mexican Spanish is distinctly different from castellano. It has many indigenous words from dozens of tribal languages, many of which are spoken to this day. [[User:(WT-en) Jules Siegel]
You've also got the translation wrong. Can means snake. Although contemporary Mayas agree that kun means nest, this translation does not appear in the standard Cordomex dictionary of the Mayan language. Modern Maya contains many Spanish words. The Spanish word for den or animal's nest is cuna. It also means cradle. I am not going to go into the full drill on this. Suffice it to say that Cancun refers to Kukulcan or Quetzalcoatl, the Plumed Serpent, the principal Mayan national and religious symbol.
--201.102.139.92 09:28, 5 Feb 2006 (EST)Jules Siegel
- Wikipedia (which is linked from the article in the otherlanguages box) has a full explanation of the meaning and etylmology. -- (WT-en) Colin 13:46, 5 Feb 2006 (EST)
Good point. I wrote that explanation, too. (WT-en) Jules Siegel 19:27, 11 April 2006 (EDT)
I added a "splurge" sub-section to the accommodation part as both the hotels I added are "splurge". I moved the existing hotel entries that also look like slurge hotels into that section too. --(WT-en) Christiantc 06:50, 3 August 2007 (EDT)
hurricane warning?
[edit]I see no need for the hurricane warning any more. I was there shortly after the hurricane and the airport, hotels, restaurants, malls etc were operational.
- Thanks. I have removed the warning which was pretty out of date anyway, but the wiki way would have been for you to remove the warning and leave a note explaining why. Plunge forward!. — (WT-en) Ravikiran 23:57, 9 May 2006 (EDT)
Texugo
[edit]Please discuss any changes to the Cancun page here. You made the following changes 1. Info about young people driving in Cancun. It is true.. The Polcia will tell you they do not like spring breakers, they pronunce it like wind breakers. 2.. Why did you remover link to Garafon. Seems better to link to it rather than leave some indescript word. 3. You change link to Xel-Ha, Xcaret, and Mayan Riviera as a related page. And 4. You removed the geocode for Cancun, which removes the map. I do not think you have the authority to make these deletions without discussion, so either refrain from removal or please discuss your intentions or reasons here. (WT-en) 2old 09:24, 29 September 2007 (EDT)
- Very sorry. I must have made a mistake reverting back too far or something-- no idea how the others happened. #3 is the only one I intended to do, and I changed it because as it stands it looks like those two theme parks have their own articles, which they don't. Why don't we change it to something like:
- The Mayan Riviera, with its ecological water theme parks such as Garrafon, XCaret, and Xel-Ha.
- (WT-en) Texugo 11:06, 29 September 2007 (EDT)
- Done. (WT-en) 2old 11:35, 29 September 2007 (EDT)
Driving
[edit]Does anyone else think the Driving section is way into the overkill zone? Some of this is useful discussion, but it's generic to driving or renting a car anywhere in Mexico. Some of it strikes me as just plain paranoia, especially considering that driving through much of the Yucatan peninsula is easier and more trouble-free than other parts of the country. I think this needs to be said, and the warnings cut to 1 paragraph max. If people find it useful, perhaps one general topic about driving in Mexico could be created. The vast bulk of what I see here though has no close connection to Cancun itself. Thoughts?
- (WT-en) Mrkstvns 16:09, 24 April 2008 (CDT)
- I second that idea. (WT-en) Texugo 18:20, 24 April 2008 (EDT)
- I agree. Not only is the driving section two long, there are two "By Car" sections. It seems a little redundant to me. I think it all needs to be condensed and then included mainly in either "Get in" or "Get around". (Preferably "Get around". (WT-en) Carson 18:30, 19 June 2008 (EDT)
I know! It does not help the article to flow at all! There is a travel topic called "driving in mexico" so I have trimmed and linked the article to this. --(WT-en) Goldie 04:36, 25 June 2010 (EDT)
Exit Fee
[edit]I just got back from Cancun. Upon my exit I did not need to pay any exit fees. I asked immigration and they said it was not needed. Perhaps this should be removed from the site.
- Please plunge forward and change the text, --(WT-en) ClausHansen 17:38, 16 June 2010 (EDT)
- I just got back from Cancun as well and was told by the officer that it depends on your airline - some airlines include the fee in your ticket, some don't. But, nobody checked anywhere if the fee had been paid. (WT-en) Vessep 13:14, 9 August 2010 (EDT)
Splitting the article?
[edit]Would it make any sense to have two articles for Cancun - one for the city itself and another for the hotel area? They are not within walking distance and many people that stay in the city do not even visit the hotel area. It would be easier to locate hotels, restaurants etc. if one knew in which part of the city the recommended place is without checking it from some other source. (WT-en) Vessep 13:14, 9 August 2010 (EDT)
- I don't know Cancun at all, but see Project:Geographical hierarchy#Districts in cities for guidelines on sub-dividing city articles. -- (WT-en) Ryan • (talk) • 13:54, 9 August 2010 (EDT)
- I will make an effort to improve on this at some point in the future; I live in the area and at some point when I have a good chunk of free time to familiarize myself with how the site / editor works I'll work on dividing it. As I do agree with the original comment. The downtown / hotel and resort area are more or less two entirely different experiences / cities / districts. You can move between them, but largely, if you're in one area, you're probably not visiting the other aside from a stray one-off visit. Heimerslinger (talk) 19:45, 5 December 2023 (UTC)
- @Heimerslinger: thank you for agreeing to take this on. Your local knowledge would be of great value in improving this article. There are many editors like me who can assist you, if you run into trouble. Ground Zero (talk) 21:35, 5 December 2023 (UTC)
- I think the best approach is to leave this article as an overview with two districts: Downtown and Hotel Zone. (Additional zones may be warranted, e.g., Puerto Juarez). I will vote a resounding NO to making it two distinct destination articles. Mrkstvns (talk) 00:59, 6 December 2023 (UTC)
- Mrkstvns is correct about how we handle large cities like this -- we create district articles, rather than separate city articles. Ground Zero (talk) 02:35, 6 December 2023 (UTC)
- I don't personally mind if it stays as one vs two articles.
- I currently plan on trying to edit the page, if possible, to have some relevent sections that are specific to the hotel zone and downtown areas, which ideally a viewer could skip past to the one that is relevent to them.
- It's a little daunting due to the sheer size of the article but I will continue coming back and chipping away at it. Heimerslinger (talk) 04:31, 10 December 2023 (UTC)
- Hello Heimerslinger, just to clarify...what you really want to do is to "districtify" the article, which means there should be:
- one main article for Cancun (basically the current article), which will eventually be shorter than what you start with
- new articles for the districts, titled "Cancun/Hotel Zone" and "Cancun/Downtown" where you can put info specific to those areas (including listings for hotels, restaurants, sights, etc.)
- You could take a look at other large cities with districts to see how it is done, for example, I think Monterrey might be a useful model because there are only 4 districts (whereas Mexico City, London, or New York City each have well over a dozen). Mrkstvns (talk) 14:19, 10 December 2023 (UTC)
- ...or I suppose you could leave it as is because districtifying is a lot of work... Mrkstvns (talk) 14:31, 10 December 2023 (UTC)
- Hello Heimerslinger, just to clarify...what you really want to do is to "districtify" the article, which means there should be:
- Mrkstvns is correct about how we handle large cities like this -- we create district articles, rather than separate city articles. Ground Zero (talk) 02:35, 6 December 2023 (UTC)
Solaris listings deleted for touting
[edit]Hi, everyone. We have a touter who uses different IPs. Please help keep Solaris listings out of this guide, as there doesn't seem to be a way to prevent them from being edited to tout, and I'm sure no traveler really needs to use their hotels, when so many other choices exist. And touter: If you're reading this, the next step would be to blacklist your URL. Ikan Kekek (talk) 23:41, 19 February 2013 (UTC)
Warning needed?
[edit]5 tortured bodies found stuffed in a vehicle in Cancun, bringing month's total to 57 Is this accurate? Would it apply beyond just Cancun? Pashley (talk) 18:23, 2 July 2018 (UTC)
Get in/By private transport
[edit]Is the section needed? "Cancun Airport Transportations" is blacklisted, and their sockpuppets keep coming back to try to redirect content in the listing for their rival, Cancun Airport Transportation, which is a different company. I'll keep blocking and reverting their B.S. if we decide that's necessary, but is there actually any difficulty in finding private shuttles from the airport? Because if there isn't, we can make things easy for ourselves by deleting the section and reverting on sight any attempt to recreate it or list any airport shuttles. Ikan Kekek (talk) 16:26, 23 April 2022 (UTC)
- That sounds like a reasonable solution. Ground Zero (talk) 18:54, 23 April 2022 (UTC)
- As there has been no objection, I will delete the section now. Ikan Kekek (talk) 15:43, 24 April 2022 (UTC)
- I'm a bit late to this conversation as I only very recently became aware of the wikivoyage site.
- My thoughts on this are that actually having a listing for private shuttles would be useful here. Or, perhaps there could be a separate small page setup for that kind of information? (As this page is getting quite large). Or if there were an external site that listed an adequate number of active shuttle services in the area, linking to it would provide value.
- If I were a net new tourist coming to this area, all I would find are the top google results. And frankly, these days, finding anything you're actually looking for via search engine is a huge mess. I think it would be a positive thing if we had a list of private shuttles on the page, however I acknowledge it would be a mess of its own to prevent vandalism and would invite a bunch of competitive edits from people trying to boost / tout themselves or put down competition.
- As someone who's lived here for the past few years and no longer really has to fly in or out, when I have friends or family visiting, I don't personally know what shuttle options are out there. I know the one that I've used in the past, and I could find some on a search engine, but would appreciate some results on this page in case i knew there were someone coming that wouldn't want to spend the insane amount on airport taxi's but also wouldn't want to use the ADO bus. Heimerslinger (talk) 18:19, 11 December 2023 (UTC)
- please get acquainted with our policies about WV:External links and WV:Don't tout which are crucial to this subject matter. WV:Goals and non-goals is relevant as well. Ibaman (talk) 18:24, 11 December 2023 (UTC)
- Thank you, I will read those! Heimerslinger (talk) 18:32, 11 December 2023 (UTC)
Aquatours
[edit]Aquatours offer tours with speedboats, a catamaran and a Spanish galleon (the worst try at a galleon I've ever seen outside playgrounds). I don't really believe that the one company has that large a competence. Is it in fact some kind of reseller? –LPfi (talk) 20:21, 26 March 2023 (UTC)
Cancun Airport article
[edit]I've started a new airport article for Cancún International Airport that can contain quite a lot more (and more detailed) information specific to the airport. CUN is a huge airport, the second busiest in Mexico, with 30 million passengers per year and four terminals. It more than meets the WV requirements to be considered a huge airport with its own article. I've already moved most of the previous "By plane" content there and will continue to add content to flesh out the new article. Please feel free to add to it! Mrkstvns (talk) 19:57, 15 August 2023 (UTC)
Get In / by Carpooling - Is this section still relevant?
[edit]A couple of times in the past couple of weeks, I've taken a look at the BlaBlaCar site mentioned in this section, and I'm unable to find any carpooled rides between the cities listed and Cancun. It's possible that I'm using it wrong, but I wanted to raise the topic and see what others thought on whether this should remain here, if perhaps there's some note on how to use that site that should be added, or if perhaps it should be removed.
If others agree that it should be removed, should we remove the 'By Carpooling' section entirely, or maybe leave something there in its place? Heimerslinger (talk) 20:44, 11 December 2023 (UTC)
- I think you can remove it if you find it to be not useful. Mrkstvns (talk) 21:45, 11 December 2023 (UTC)