Talk:Junan
Add topicLatest comment: 6 months ago by Ground Zero in topic Merge with Linyi?
This article is currently a stub because it has no "IsPartOf." But it looks like it's really part of Linyi, so shouldn't it be merged and redirected to that article? Pinging User:Zhuo1221 and User:Pashley for your input on this. I'd also note the remarks and map in w:Linyi#Administration. The population of Linyi Prefecture is over 11 million, which might suggest that we could consider turning Linyi into a districted city on this site, if there's enough content for all the districts, but I think such considerations are a long way off and would require the city article to have much more content. Ikan Kekek (talk) 20:27, 9 October 2023 (UTC)
- My impulse is to move it to Linyi/Junan. Full districting can wait, but it looks like merging would be messy & it seems pointless if it would all need to be undone later. Pashley (talk) 21:59, 9 October 2023 (UTC)
- Do you think there would be enough content to district the city? There are 10 administrative divisions shown on the map on Wikipedia. I think it's way premature to district this city on Wikivoyage and therefore disagree with you and support a merge/redirect for now. Ikan Kekek (talk) 22:09, 9 October 2023 (UTC)
- I agree that it is much too soon to district, but see merging as pointless.
- I'm inclined to think that this does not make much sense as a standalone article, but places like Mawei or Jimei that are districts in the Chinese administrative system do get articles. Pashley (talk) 22:28, 9 October 2023 (UTC)
- In larger & more complicated cities some WV districts correspond with the administrative ones, but others do not. e.g. see Shanghai#Districts. Pashley (talk) 01:42, 10 October 2023 (UTC)
- If it doesn't make much sense as a standalone article, why would a merge/redirect not be the thing to do? Ikan Kekek (talk) 03:30, 10 October 2023 (UTC)
- My 2 cents is that it does not make sense to have a partially districtified city and would favour a merge. But I'm not familiar with this area and haven't heard of it until now, so... --SHB2000 (talk | contribs | meta) 03:37, 10 October 2023 (UTC)
- Pashley, I want you to note that Junan is covered in the Linyi guide, as it should be. Why do we want to duplicate or divide content irregularly between articles? I wish I could have your support, so we can do the merge/redirect. Ikan Kekek (talk) 07:41, 13 October 2023 (UTC)
- I've stated my opinion but there seems to be a consensus for the merge & I can accept that. Pashley (talk) 12:26, 13 October 2023 (UTC)
- Unfortunately, we now have quite a number of partially districtified prefecture-level cities on Wikivoyage. Perhaps we should start a new discussion thread on Talk:China to decide on a common approach to deal with them. STW932 (talk) 16:23, 13 October 2023 (UTC)
- By all means! Ikan Kekek (talk) 18:44, 13 October 2023 (UTC)
- Unfortunately, we now have quite a number of partially districtified prefecture-level cities on Wikivoyage. Perhaps we should start a new discussion thread on Talk:China to decide on a common approach to deal with them. STW932 (talk) 16:23, 13 October 2023 (UTC)
- I've stated my opinion but there seems to be a consensus for the merge & I can accept that. Pashley (talk) 12:26, 13 October 2023 (UTC)
- Pashley, I want you to note that Junan is covered in the Linyi guide, as it should be. Why do we want to duplicate or divide content irregularly between articles? I wish I could have your support, so we can do the merge/redirect. Ikan Kekek (talk) 07:41, 13 October 2023 (UTC)
- My 2 cents is that it does not make sense to have a partially districtified city and would favour a merge. But I'm not familiar with this area and haven't heard of it until now, so... --SHB2000 (talk | contribs | meta) 03:37, 10 October 2023 (UTC)
- If it doesn't make much sense as a standalone article, why would a merge/redirect not be the thing to do? Ikan Kekek (talk) 03:30, 10 October 2023 (UTC)
There is enough content here and in Linyi that it no longer makes sense to merge them. Ground Zero (talk) 18:50, 19 December 2023 (UTC)
- 4 months later, are we proceeding with the merge or not? --SHB2000 (talk | contribs | meta) 01:03, 3 February 2024 (UTC)
- Another 4 months later, and it seems no-one is interested in proceeding with a merger. If there's no further comment in a week, I'll remove the tag. Ground Zero (talk) 12:06, 6 June 2024 (UTC)
- Is Junan currently covered by the Linyi article? I'm still confused about the organizational/hierarchy issues discussed above. Ikan Kekek (talk) 13:26, 6 June 2024 (UTC)
- Linyi says "Junan County, in the east of Linyi City, is covered in a separate article." I see no Junan listings in Linyi. Ground Zero (talk) 15:15, 6 June 2024 (UTC)
- OK, then it's perfectly fine to leave the articles separate. But since Junan is not part of Linyi city, should it be breadcrumbed to Shandong instead of Linyi? I tend to think so. Ikan Kekek (talk) 21:27, 7 June 2024 (UTC)
- I don't have have an opinion on that. Ground Zero (talk) 02:43, 8 June 2024 (UTC)
- OK, then it's perfectly fine to leave the articles separate. But since Junan is not part of Linyi city, should it be breadcrumbed to Shandong instead of Linyi? I tend to think so. Ikan Kekek (talk) 21:27, 7 June 2024 (UTC)
- Linyi says "Junan County, in the east of Linyi City, is covered in a separate article." I see no Junan listings in Linyi. Ground Zero (talk) 15:15, 6 June 2024 (UTC)
- Is Junan currently covered by the Linyi article? I'm still confused about the organizational/hierarchy issues discussed above. Ikan Kekek (talk) 13:26, 6 June 2024 (UTC)
- Another 4 months later, and it seems no-one is interested in proceeding with a merger. If there's no further comment in a week, I'll remove the tag. Ground Zero (talk) 12:06, 6 June 2024 (UTC)