Talk:Monopoly

vfd discussion

Monopoly

This is a TRAVEL DIRECTORY,not a board game repository. 96.18.219.55 16:56, 7 January 2022 (UTC)

• Delete Support: there are versions of Monopoly for hundreds of cities around the world. There are 56 licensed version for US cities alone. Ground Zero (talk) 17:17, 7 January 2022 (UTC)

Does this mean Keep or Delete?96.18.219.55 17:22, 7 January 2022 (UTC)

• Keep, if we can concentrate on the original Atlantic City one and then agree on which other ones are the most famous ones. Ikan Kekek (talk) 19:59, 7 January 2022 (UTC)

I think this would be more useful as a sidebar to the Atlantic City article. I don't think that anyone is going to plan a trip to include Atlantic City and London and whatever other cities we decide are the most famous ones. Ground Zero (talk) 20:05, 7 January 2022 (UTC)

No, but I could really easily see someone visiting particular streets because they're in monopoly games, and I could also easily see someone taking a series of trips over time to different cities and visiting streets included in monopoly games. I think this is a legitimate travel topic, and the only issue is how to prevent it from being unwieldy. Ikan Kekek (talk) 20:32, 7 January 2022 (UTC)

Includes me in 2018. Only reason why I visited Mayfair was because of that. SHB2000 (talk | contribs | meta.wikimedia) 02:11, 8 January 2022 (UTC)

• Comment: Note that this nomination is by a previously- and currently-blocked vandal. Ikan Kekek (talk) 23:39, 7 January 2022 (UTC)
• Keep per Ikan. I'd personally focus on Atlantic City and London though. --SHB2000 (talk | contribs | meta.wikimedia) 01:52, 8 January 2022 (UTC)
• Weak keep As long as someone can work on it. Thematic travel guides are valid and even if someone won't go across the Atlantic Ocean to see all the sites about a given game, it's worth having them in one place so if someone goes to either location and is curious, he can find the relevant sites for the place where he is actually visiting. —Justin (koavf)❤T☮C☺M☯ 01:57, 8 January 2022 (UTC)

Here are links to the localized variants of the game. I don't think "either" is the appropriate word as that suggests that there are two versions. Ground Zero (talk) 02:13, 8 January 2022 (UTC)

Well, yes, of course there's Indiana University Monopoly and Justice League of America Monopoly, etc. I don't think anyone is suggesting exploding out this article to all of the licensed variants. —Justin (koavf)❤T☮C☺M☯ 02:15, 8 January 2022 (UTC)

I mentioned that there are hundreds of city editions. Thanks for taking two non-city editions off the list. That narrows it down. Ground Zero (talk) 02:57, 8 January 2022 (UTC)

I think we're talking past one another or there's some sarcasm I'm not picking up on but I'm just saying that if this sticks to Monopoly proper, it could be an intelligible article. If it starts including all of these branded and licensed variations, then yes, this will be an unending list of trivia. —Justin (koavf)❤T☮C☺M☯ 03:03, 8 January 2022 (UTC)

What is 'Monopoly proper'? Doesn't that vary by country? What version do Brazilians play? Or South Africans? Or Indians? I don't know. Ground Zero (talk) 03:07, 8 January 2022 (UTC)

Monopoly is an American board game owned by a mammoth multinational company. I'm sure that there are some differences in the version that someone may buy in Thailand versus the United States, but the standard edition is the one you would get at a big box retailer in Indiana. —Justin (koavf)❤T☮C☺M☯ 03:12, 8 January 2022 (UTC)

So the Atlantic City version, then? That isn't what the article is doing now. Also, I view Wikivoyage as a travel guide aimed at an international audience, not an American one. Other readers won't have had the same experience of Monopoly and you or I have had, and I do not think that we should presume that. Ground Zero (talk) 03:18, 8 January 2022 (UTC)

Sure, let's change Breaking Bad to include a bunch of locations in Colombia just because Metástasis exists. That's sensible. —Justin (koavf)❤T☮C☺M☯ 03:20, 8 January 2022 (UTC)

I don't have a clue what you're trying to say here. Let's stick to the topic under discussion. The discussion is about 'Monopoly', which is sold around the world in hundreds of different versions under the name 'Monopoly'. Many of our readers aren't American, which I think should be obvious, and have never played the Atlantic City version, but have played games called 'Monopoly' that feature streets from cities that are not Atlantic City. Ground Zero (talk) 03:28, 8 January 2022 (UTC)

My understanding is that in ZA and India play the London one, as the article says

The most common version in North America is based on the streets of Atlantic City, New Jersey, while the most common version in Commonwealth countries (excluding Canada) is based on the streets of London.

But no idea re Brazil or any other non-Commonwealth country and the US. SHB2000 (talk | contribs | meta.wikimedia) 03:29, 8 January 2022 (UTC)

That is my point, exactly. This is an international project. Let's not assume that Monopoly means Atlantic City, or Atlantic City and London. Ground Zero (talk) 03:32, 8 January 2022 (UTC)

I'd like to see how this travel topic turns out. If it turns into a well developed one, then keep, but if it remains an outline, I'd go for delete. However, given the article was only created yesterday (Jan 6 19:52 PST), DaGizza should be given at least a month to work on it. SHB2000 (talk | contribs | meta.wikimedia) 03:41, 8 January 2022 (UTC)

In Singapore, there is a local Singapore version, but most people play the London version. Both are available in shops. The Atlantic City version is very rare, and when I was a kid, many people erroneously thought it was a British game. Anyway, I think this could be kept as an itinerary if someone is willing to work on it. Some people might in fact be interested in visiting sites that are featured in either version of the game. Also, if there are actual professional monopoly tournaments you can watch, that could also the basis of a travel article. The reason why we have articles for board games like chess and Go is because there are professional tournaments you can actually travel to watch. The dog2 (talk) 04:04, 8 January 2022 (UTC)

Travel topics are given a year and not a month before being nominated for deletion like itineraries, aren't they? And a blocked vandal nominated this for deletion. Ikan Kekek (talk) 05:42, 8 January 2022 (UTC)

• Keep pending expansion. Ikan is, IIRC, right that outline travel topics have a year's grace period; this is currently fine. We can come back here if it's not improved, and if it is, we've got a high-quality article on a relevant topic. Vaticidalprophet (talk) 11:28, 8 January 2022 (UTC)
• Keep we can revisit this next year if the article hasn't changed. Monopoly is one of those games that people play when travelling because the game is lying on a shelf in the hostel, and the game is still playable if a couple of pieces are missing. AlasdairW (talk) 11:19, 9 January 2022 (UTC)

Result: clear consensus to keep. Ground Zero (talk) 11:49, 9 January 2022 (UTC)