Talk:Rhône-Alpes

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Regional subdivision[edit]

I am not an expert on the area, but does the current region breakdown make sense? Given that those subregion articles are not exactly all that fleshed out and all. Hobbitschuster (talk) 22:43, 23 September 2016 (UTC)[reply]

The current breakdown makes sense if you'd ask me. The division is made based on France's Régions, which are clusters of ~6 Départements. This division seems logical if you'd ask me. Reworking France's official Régions shouldn't be considered since it's a lot of effort to replace a system that is already decent. I'd be in favour of the current breakdown over any other.
-- Wauteurz (talk) 09:39, 24 September 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Hobbitschuster, is your proposal to merge all of them here and redirect them all? I definitely understand the impulse, but is that what you want to do? Ikan Kekek (talk) 09:47, 24 September 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Looking at the way those subregions currently look the thought had occured to me, yes. But on the other hand given that departments are not exactly based on travel categories and France is a stereotypically centralist state (with department border mattering much less than state boundaries in Germany or the US) maybe some subdivision either combining more than one department into one or not based on departments is more practicable. I just found that the subregions in their current form are close to useless and went from there. I must admit that I don't have it all figured out... Hobbitschuster (talk) 19:21, 24 September 2016 (UTC)[reply]
My feeling is that some of the departement articles have some meat on them. I doubt that merging and redirecting all 6 articles would be best, though I don't really know enough to have a firm opinion about this. I could see where it might make sense to have a few super-departmental regions, but if we do that, someone has to know enough to propose them. Ikan Kekek (talk) 06:50, 25 September 2016 (UTC)[reply]
The French Routard guide divides the former Rhône-Alpes region into three touristic regions: Alps, Greater Lyon and Ardèche & Drôme, which seems quite sensible to me. Someone who wants to ski, hike up mountains or do river-rafting will rather not care in which département their destination is, as long as there are high enough mountains. Same goes for travellers who want to taste local wines (which you will rarely find in the Alps) or enjoy Mediterranean climate and see lavender fields (yes, you'll find them in Ardèche & Drôme, not only in Provence). Such a division according to landscape, climate and culture rather than administrative divisions would conform most to "The traveller comes first". --RJFF (talk) 12:44, 7 October 2016 (UTC)[reply]
I am not familiar with this region but the solution sounds logical to me. --Traveler100 (talk) 16:23, 7 October 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Merging up all the departments to Rhône-Alpes will mean the Cities list will get quite long, so I think it's good to have R-A divided up in some way. The version suggested by User:RJFF looks OK to me. ϒpsilon (talk) 16:32, 7 October 2016 (UTC)[reply]
On top of that it might even bring some SEO benefits, as people might be more likely to search for travel related content using something like "French Alps" then the department names which few non-French would know. Furthermore, we might avoid the "duplicate content" penalty that gets slapped on so many of our articles (but notably not new[er] creations) Hobbitschuster (talk) 16:42, 7 October 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Where are we on this?[edit]

Soooo... Three months have passed and nothing seems to have happened... Hobbitschuster (talk) 12:05, 3 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]