Talk:Christmas and New Year travel
No Understand section
[edit]Why is there none? Should there be one? Could it be distilled out of the lede? Hobbitschuster (talk) 13:57, 20 November 2017 (UTC)
Canada
[edit]I wonder if any of our Canadian editors can comment on this. Is turkey a Christmas or Thanksgiving dish in Canada? The dog2 (talk) 18:48, 26 October 2021 (UTC)
- Read here to your heart's content: w:Thanksgiving (Canada). Yes, turkey is traditional. Ikan Kekek (talk) 20:18, 26 October 2021 (UTC)
- Yes, both. October and December. The article says that Americans eat roast beef at Christmas. Really? How have I never heard that? I have always assumed that Americans also eat turkey at Christmas. (My brother who moved to the US is vegetarian, so it has never come up in discussion. ) Ground Zero (talk) 21:07, 26 October 2021 (UTC)
- One of my former colleagues told me that for him, turkey is a Thanksgiving dish, while for Christmas, he has ham and roast beef. That said, African-Americans friends have told me that having roast beef for Christmas is specifically a white American thing, and African-Americans have their own different Christmas dinner that also does not include turkey. The dog2 (talk) 23:31, 26 October 2021 (UTC)
- I'm Jewish and there was no Christmas tradition in my family; instead, we celebrated my father's birthday, which fell on the next day. However, my distinct impression is that while turkey is pretty much de riguer for Americans on Thanksgiving (although when we hosted Thanksgiving at my parents' place, we often made a capon or a chicken or two instead of a turkey, because we preferred them to turkey and didn't often have a large enough group to come close at all to finishing a turkey), there's much more variation at Christmas, with turkey as one option, ham as another, roast beef as another... Ikan Kekek (talk) 03:21, 27 October 2021 (UTC)
- Now the article says "in [...] traditional Christmas meals include a roast ham and roast turkey dinner with all the trimmings." Both? Here the ham alone is quite much. Even when we were many at the dinner, leftovers lasted for days. We also had pickled herring, lutefisk, casseroles etc., but still. –LPfi (talk) 06:53, 27 October 2021 (UTC)
- Yeah, I think we can say they often include roast ham and/or roast turkey. Ikan Kekek (talk) 06:56, 27 October 2021 (UTC)
- I agree. Ground Zero (talk) 11:21, 27 October 2021 (UTC)
- Yeah, I think we can say they often include roast ham and/or roast turkey. Ikan Kekek (talk) 06:56, 27 October 2021 (UTC)
- Now the article says "in [...] traditional Christmas meals include a roast ham and roast turkey dinner with all the trimmings." Both? Here the ham alone is quite much. Even when we were many at the dinner, leftovers lasted for days. We also had pickled herring, lutefisk, casseroles etc., but still. –LPfi (talk) 06:53, 27 October 2021 (UTC)
- I'm Jewish and there was no Christmas tradition in my family; instead, we celebrated my father's birthday, which fell on the next day. However, my distinct impression is that while turkey is pretty much de riguer for Americans on Thanksgiving (although when we hosted Thanksgiving at my parents' place, we often made a capon or a chicken or two instead of a turkey, because we preferred them to turkey and didn't often have a large enough group to come close at all to finishing a turkey), there's much more variation at Christmas, with turkey as one option, ham as another, roast beef as another... Ikan Kekek (talk) 03:21, 27 October 2021 (UTC)
- One of my former colleagues told me that for him, turkey is a Thanksgiving dish, while for Christmas, he has ham and roast beef. That said, African-Americans friends have told me that having roast beef for Christmas is specifically a white American thing, and African-Americans have their own different Christmas dinner that also does not include turkey. The dog2 (talk) 23:31, 26 October 2021 (UTC)
- Yes, both. October and December. The article says that Americans eat roast beef at Christmas. Really? How have I never heard that? I have always assumed that Americans also eat turkey at Christmas. (My brother who moved to the US is vegetarian, so it has never come up in discussion. ) Ground Zero (talk) 21:07, 26 October 2021 (UTC)
Away from the winter?
[edit]We say: "Many people travel to, or within, the tropics or the southern hemisphere, as it is summer there." Where is that common? From here, going south in autumn and winter is common, but I have never heard about a family with such Christmas or New Year traditions. Christmas has so much tradition, partly connected to the local climate, and expectations on being in touch with family, that it is hard for me to imagine that choice being common, except for immigrants from warmer latitudes. Some may of course flee the traditions and the family, but if we are referring to that, we should say so. –LPfi (talk) 10:50, 15 November 2021 (UTC)
- I also don't understand why people would want to head to the southern hemisphere tropics. It's monsoon season, and it rains like hell (I've lived in the tropics before, and have been in two cyclones up there before). It gets worse even closer to the equator where roads get shut for about 3-4 months. And for South America, similar reason. Why would someone want to go somewhere where it would rain nearly every hour? SHB2000 (talk | contribs | meta.wikimedia) 11:03, 15 November 2021 (UTC)
- I spoke with a woman from Buenos Aires at a Christmas Eve party when I was in grad school in Long Island and it was like 10 degrees (Fahrenheit) outside. She said she felt weird because it was her first time away from home on Christmas and it just didn't feel like Christmas to her if she couldn't spend it on the beach. Ikan Kekek (talk) 11:06, 15 November 2021 (UTC)
- :-)
- And we sing about a Finnish sailor celebrating Christmas in Hawaii – equally weird for him and for us. –LPfi (talk) 12:10, 15 November 2021 (UTC)
"Each Nordic country has a claim to be home of Santa Claus."
[edit]What about Iceland? --SHB2000 (talk | contribs | meta) 09:39, 1 September 2023 (UTC)