Talk:Cyprus

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Naming

This article covers only the Republic of Cyprus/Southern Cyprus, and the naming is confusing. Since crossing the border is not a simple matter, they should have separate articles, and this should be reflected in the names. I'm working on a map and would like to change this now, any objections? --(WT-en) Peter ^Talk 16:48, 22 March 2009 (EDT)

Yes, it will be wrong to change the Map and there should be no separate articles. There is only one Cyprus, The island of Cyprus that is, and this is the one that entered the European union. The Republic of Cyprus controls only the southern part, as the northern part is occupied by the Turkish army. The article on Cyprus should simply mention that Turkey invaded in 1974, occupied more than 30% of the island and forced 40% of the population out of there homes. —The preceding comment was added by (WT-en) 213.7.113.249 (talk • contribs)

Would it be fair to ask whether your suggestion is based upon political considerations or upon a consideration of what would be useful for travelers visiting the island? Personally, I would find the fact that once cannot move freely from one side of the island to the other to be travel-relevant. That's all off topic though, I'm suggesting that we rename this article from "Cyprus" to "Republic of Cyprus," because we have two articles, and a casual editor/reader such as myself found this confusing. --(WT-en) Peter ^Talk 18:54, 27 March 2009 (EDT)

I don't see a need to change this. "Cyprus" with no qualifier is far and away the most common name for the Republic. (WT-en) Jpatokal 02:16, 28 March 2009 (EDT)

I'm inclined to agree that this page should be moved (although, I'm thinking "Southern Cyprus" would be a better title). I'm thinking a "Cyprus" article should be for the whole island, it's a little confusing for the Cyprus guide to only cover half of Cyprus.

And maybe "Cyprus" is the most common name for the Republic. But I bet when most people think "Cyprus", they're more likely to think of the island then the southern half of it. Emmette Hernandez Coleman (talk) 08:01, 25 August 2017 (UTC)

That would be like calling the Republic of Ireland "South Ireland", in the sense that as far as I know, no-one does it. Of course I realize that Northern Ireland covers a much smaller percentage of the land area on the island of Ireland than Northern Cyprus does on the island of Cyprus, but that's not a good reason, in my opinion, to coin a name for a country that is in no wide use today. I think the article should remain as is, in terms of title and disclaimers. Ikan Kekek (talk) 08:44, 25 August 2017 (UTC)

I also think that the article name should stay as-is; the article already links the Northern Cyprus article multiple times, so it's not like people will get confused and look for Kyrenia in this article. If the consensus would lean towards a change though, "Republic of Cyprus" would be more acceptable than "Southern Cyprus", I guess, as the Greek half of the island never calls itself using a directional adjective. We also have an extra region at Cyprus (island) but I'm not sure what purpose it serves, nor if anyone gets to see it since there are few internal links it receives. Vidimian (talk) 09:57, 25 August 2017 (UTC)

I suppose to me: "Cyprus = Republic of Cyprus = The southern part of Cyprus" feels like a political thing. Like I said: I think that most people would think of the island when they think "Cyprus". Even the government of the Republic would say that "Cyprus" refers to the whole island. Emmette Hernandez Coleman (talk) 09:27, 26 August 2017 (UTC)

Put it this way: the majority of visitors will go to the southern part. Going to holiday in the northern part is definitely possible, but still rather exceptional. I would leave things as is. Andrewssi2 (talk) 04:12, 27 August 2017 (UTC)

Well, that helps. But I'm curious: Why do most visitors go to the South? Emmette Hernandez Coleman (talk) 06:02, 27 August 2017 (UTC)

There are no direct flights to the North from non-Turkish airports (in great part due to political reasons). And the South nowadays sees quite a few flights from all over Europe. Hobbitschuster (talk) 16:03, 27 August 2017 (UTC)

I don't fly much, so I'm pretty ignorant on the subject. But what stops travelers from just booking a flight to the North, via Turkey? Emmette Hernandez Coleman (talk) 02:23, 28 August 2017 (UTC)

Well for one there is less choice of airline and less competition. Greek Cypriot airports see service through the likes of Ryanair. Similarly, charter flights (which are often bundled with accommodation and thus sold as a package) are usually available to the South only. There are now a handful of "direct" flights that briefly touch down in Turkey before flying on to Northern Cyprus, but it is generally just more hassle. Add to that, that Cyprus is part of Schengen de jure but only Southern Cyprus is also part of it de facto (the Northern Cyprus visa is not hard to get, but you'll need a passport to go there). Of course the adventurous and knowledgeable traveler has no difficulty getting to Northern Cyprus, but most go the route of least resistance. Hobbitschuster (talk) 16:09, 28 August 2017 (UTC)

Maybe we should put some of this information on the Northern Cyprus article. Emmette Hernandez Coleman (talk) 14:17, 31 August 2017 (UTC)

I'm not sure that was ever done. If that's still current information and it's useful to travelers, it should be added to that article. Ikan Kekek (talk) 00:49, 5 March 2022 (UTC)

The bit about the "direct" flights touching down at Turkish airports is mentioned in that article, though. Vidimian (talk) 11:25, 9 March 2022 (UTC)

Wikipedia link for Cyprus notice

Swept in from the pub

Is it reasonable to link to w:2012–2013 Cypriot financial crisis from the disclaimer box on Cyprus#Buy? I presume we want to keep details which directly affect travel (limits on ATMs, uncertain access to foreign currency exchange, merchants refusing payment cards) here with the rest of the info linked elsewhere as the situation may change rapidly. K7L (talk) 15:14, 25 March 2013 (UTC)

Akrotiri and Dhekelia?

I noticed that the sovereign British areas of w:Akrotiri_and_Dhekelia are not covered in the regions.

Although they are not legally part of Cyprus, they are fully integrated with free movement into them from the other regions. There doesn't seem to be much to see (given the largely military use of the areas) however it seems like they should be covered as a region under Cyprus? --Andrewssi2 (talk) 21:13, 15 March 2016 (UTC)

History

I guess this was reverted because it was by Brendan? It did contain an erroneous phrasing in it. Cyprus' history is very interesting and significant, though. The crucial copper of Bronze Age civilization was mined mainly in Cyprus, whose name copper I believe is derived from, not the reverse. It's also the place where the earliest remains of domesticated cats have been discovered. Some pre-1960 history should be added. Ikan Kekek (talk) 00:45, 5 March 2022 (UTC)

Yeah I only rollbacked it because it was added by the one Australian user who we all know... SHB2000 (talk | contribs | meta.wikimedia) 00:46, 5 March 2022 (UTC)

Right. I'm just saying Cyprus' pre-1960 history is quite significant and should be covered, not covered by that guy. Ikan Kekek (talk) 08:42, 11 March 2022 (UTC)