Talk:Goa

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Why do you keep reverting changes made to Goa[edit]

Why do you keep reverting what has been added with valuable time, it's outrageous. Please explain. —The preceding comment was added by (WT-en) Rmuddam (talkcontribs)

Hi there, I think the most recent changes you made to the Get in section were probably reverted because you were starting to reformat it in a way that was kinda maybe making it a little messier, but I can't say for sure since I didn't do it. But as for the one the other day, there were a couple things wrong. For one, we don't add links to Wikipedia within the guide (just one link to the Goa article is ok, and it goes in the left toolbar under "Other sites", where it already is now).
Also, since the Goa article is a region article, all of the actual listings for hotels, restaurants, etc belong in the subarticles... for instance, a hotel in Panaji belongs in the Panaji article, and the same for ones in Palolem, etc. I think when you added the large list of websites it looked at a glance like you were putting stuff in the wrong place, which is why someone removed it... but as you can see if you look in the article history I quickly restored it, since I appreciate the hard work you did in researching those, and while maybe they aren't in the right place, at least we've got the info now, and those sites will help us a lot in gathering the rest of the info we need like phone #'s and addresses. So for now, it's still on the Goa page, but when someone who knows where they belong comes along, they'll put them in the right places.
Usually we try to explain our reverts around here and I'm sorry that nobody did this time... but please know that your edits are welcome, and I hope you'll continue helping us out! Sorry again. I've left you a welcome message on your talk page, with some useful links on how to edit, format, etc, which may help you out with your future contributions. Thanks! – (WT-en) cacahuate talk 20:58, 23 May 2007 (EDT)

Thanks for the response, it's a big relief after your response. The reason i contribute, where i can, is that i think this is a noble cause, and often times, info on Indian places is found wanting, hence the contribution.- [user:rmuddam]

There seems to be a site abuse by one "Montego Bay Goa" by using this site for their promotion, and put their hotel info at a lot of places. I have deleted where ever i found them repetitive, self-promotion. Pls. keep them on the watch list. (WT-en) Randhir R 14:21, 30 May 2007 (EDT)

Cool, thanks for the help, always appreciated! – (WT-en) cacahuate talk 16:14, 31 May 2007 (EDT)

Lots of style issues[edit]

This article has extremely long and confusing do, eat, and sleep sections. Since this is a region article, there should be no listings here—all listings should be in appropriate destination articles. Would someone knowledgeable about the area please try and merge relevant content into appropriate destination and city articles and remove irrelevant content altogether. --(WT-en) Peter Talk 15:00, 30 September 2007 (EDT)

Okay, let me try... (WT-en) Fredericknoronha 14:43, 12 January 2008 (EST)

just to clarify - Peter meant into destination and city articles not creating separate articles for the content. I moved your content back here, as I have no knowledge of Goa, but a sorting would still be nice - it's not that your work aren't appreciated - it is! But the way you're doing it not means more work for me and others, so please take a bit of time to look around the different help articles, to get a grasp of how we do things. (WT-en) Sertmann 23:19, 15 October 2008 (EDT)
I have taken out all of the eat, sleep, and drink listings and saved them locally. I will gradually feed these back into the correct artciles. It will take a while as there are 9 A4 pages of them. The article looks a lot better for this. --(WT-en) Burmesedays 09:09, 3 January 2010 (EST)

No mention of eco-tourism or things to see/do of ecological value in Goa? I for one am interested in water harvesting, bio or syngas harvesting, aquaculture, milk processing, fish processing and handling etc. --(WT-en) Anonperson 04:35, 29 January 2010 (EST)

Please go ahead and write about it. --(WT-en) Burmesedays 05:13, 29 January 2010 (EST)

Guide?[edit]

Goa would be a good destination of the month nominee and we need more of those spread around the world. However, it cannot be nominated until the article is at Guide status. I just bumped it from outline to usable, and it looks close to Guide to me, but I haven't looked in detail and anyway I'm not prepared to bump it twice without other opinions.

Is it a Guide? If not, what does it need? I can help a bit with copy edits, but I haven't been there in decades. Would anyone who knows the region as it currently is care to jump in? Pashley (talk) 00:28, 28 August 2013 (UTC)

I'm sorry no-one replied. There's a lot of good stuff in this article, but it's not a Guide yet. Comments from Wikivoyage:India Expedition: Most of this article is quite good and pretty interesting to read. "See," "Do" and "Buy" are treated like sections in a city article, with a bunch of listings, which is not the normal way a state article treats them. "Stay safe" might be easier to read if divided into more subsections. "Go next" should have links added as needed and could use some tweaking. Ikan Kekek (talk) 08:38, 15 September 2014 (UTC)

Alternative banner for this article?[edit]

old banner currently used in this article
suggested new banner (which is currently used in the parallel article in the Hebrew Wikivoyage)

In the Hebrew Wikivoyage we are currently using this banner instead of the one which is currently used here. Do you think too that this banner would would better than the existing one? ויקיג'אנקי (talk) 01:47, 5 April 2014 (UTC)

Definitely think the current banner is more striking and original than the proposed new one. Texugo (talk) 02:14, 5 April 2014 (UTC)
I totally agree. Ikan Kekek (talk) 02:22, 5 April 2014 (UTC)
Me too, though palm trees are very much part of the Goa I recall. I might fund a clearer photo of them, or something showing some of architecture or the fishing boats, better than either of the above. Pashley (talk) 02:33, 5 April 2014 (UTC)
Though there's nothing so original about palm trees at tropical latitudes... Texugo (talk) 02:36, 5 April 2014 (UTC)
Current banner Matroc (talk) 03:16, 8 April 2014 (UTC)

Wikipedia-style wikitable moved from article[edit]

We don't use tables like this in Wikivoyage articles, but just in case someone might find some use out of it:

Trains to get into Goa[edit]

Train Number Train Name You may board at You may alight at
12432 Rajdhani Express Nizamuddin (Delhi), Panvel (Mumbai) Madgaon Junction
12618 Mangala Lakshadweep Express Nizamuddin (Delhi), Kalyan (Mumbai), Panvel (Mumbai) Thivim, Madgaon Junction
0103 Mandovi Express Mumbai CST, Panvel (Mumbai) Thivim, Madgaon Junction
0111 Konkan Kanya Express Mumbai CST, Panvel (Mumbai) Thivim, Madgaon Junction
12051 Jan Shatabdi Express Mumbai CST, Panvel (Mumbai) Thivim, Madgaon Junction
12450 Sampark Kranti Express Nizamuddin (Delhi) Thivim, Madgaon Junction
17309 Yesvantpur-Vasco Express Yesvantpur (Bangalore) Madgaon Junction, Vasco da Gama
17311 Chennai-Vasco Express Chennai Central, Yesvantpur (Bangalore) Madgaon Junction, Vasco da Gama
18047 Amaravathi Express Howrah (Kolkata) Madgaon Junction, Vasco da Gama
16346 Netravathi Express Thiruvananthapuram Central, Mangalore Junction Madgaon Junction, Thivim
12431 Rajdhani Express Thiruvananthapuram Central, Mangalore Junction Madgaon Junction

Ikan Kekek (talk) 08:14, 15 September 2014 (UTC)

Embryonic itinerary[edit]

This seemed too detailed to be in the article, but if someone wanted to use this as the basis for an itinerary article and was ready to defend it as not just a random route in case of a vfd nomination, great:

Hyderabad to Goa road route — Take NH9 (Bombay Highway) and after crossing Patancheru, Sadashivpet, Zaheerabad at Humnabad turn left towards Gulbarga. Do not enter Gulbarga town and as soon as you hit the ring road at Gulbarga turn left towards Jewargi. This road goes over a nice, new flyover they built. So you can't miss it. At Jewargi make sure you turn on to road towards Sindgi, Dewar Hippargi and Bijapur. Have a fuel refill here and then head towards Jamkhandi-Mudhol-Lokapur-Yaragatti-Nesargi and Belgaum. Be careful you pick this road going to Jamkhandi as there are quite a few roads leading out of Bijapur. Also there is a tempting road that looks shorter on the map between Jamkhandi and Yaragatti. It is shorter but a single lane and very potholed. So avoid it. The other road is only 13nbsp;km longer anyway. Now the most important part. From Belgaum take the road towards Jamboti which then goes on to Chorla and eventually to Sanquelim. The road in the ghats here is impeccable and not abused by mining trucks and other heavy vehicles. The drive is very scenic too. From Sanquelim depending on whether you are going to north or South Goa you can choose the road either to Mapusa or to Panaji respectively. Additional tips: Just before you leave Belgaum city and enter the highway towards Jamboti on the right hand side look out for Kshema Inn which serves good food. We used GPS on our mobile phone (my wife was the navigator) while figuring our way around Bijapur and Belgaum to get on to the right road. This is hugely helpful and saves time and effort of having to get directions from the locals which may or may not be right. Allow a trip time or 14 hr from Sainikpuri to Calangute including city traffic, food and rest stops. This route mat have some advantages over various other roads between Hyd and Goa including Gangawati, Anmod, Sawantwadi.

Ikan Kekek (talk) 08:20, 15 September 2014 (UTC)

Drunken idiots?[edit]

I spent the winter of 1974-75 in Goa and have not been back since. I hope my question here is badly out of date.

One conspicuous feature of the place when I was there was large groups of fairly well-dressed male Indian tourists, mostly quite obviously drunk, whose great joy in life seemed to be oggling foreign girls (at the time, hippie chicks) in bathing suits. Having a dozen or more guys standing about waiting eagerly for a few girls to emerge from the water is seriously irritating. Pashley (talk) 20:34, 21 September 2014 (UTC)

"Distance from Goa to various cities" table[edit]

This table in Get in/By car presumably relates to Panaji and should be moved there. Any objections? Ikan Kekek (talk) 22:21, 21 November 2014 (UTC)

No objections or put in both places and maybe change title to "Distance from Goa (Panaji) to various cities"
The reason I think it belongs in Panaji and not here is that the distances are so specific that they can't apply to the entire state, even one as small as Goa. Ikan Kekek (talk) 05:03, 22 November 2014 (UTC)
I moved the chart to Panaji and retitled it "Distances from various cities to Panaji," keeping in mind that it's in the "Get in" section. Ikan Kekek (talk) 01:38, 24 November 2014 (UTC)

Beach pictures[edit]

The beach pictures added here don't add anything to the article. They could pretty much be beaches anywhere. Should we remove them? Ground Zero (talk) 12:01, 7 July 2019 (UTC)

I'd remove two of the three beach photos. Also, I think we have an excess of maps; the generic link at the top plus three in the article. should some of those go?
Also the 200px tags on various photos make them useless, at least on my screen; I'd say just leave them all at default size. Pashley (talk) 12:19, 7 July 2019 (UTC)

Susegad[edit]

Interesting BBC Travel article. It's worth reading the whole thing, but here's a short sample:

Journalist Joanna Lobo, who grew up in north Goa and now lives in Mumbai, reminisced about susegad from her childhood. “It’s a Sunday spent with the family, relaxing after a filling lunch of rice, fish and vegetables, just gossiping about the village or playing card games. It’s that feeling of relaxation, of feeling content with life, of being loved.”
Contentment, physical silence and mental peace were themes that came up again and again as I spoke to people from Goa – both those who live there and those who have moved away. Where other Indian towns are defined by the sounds of vehicular and human traffic in the form of incessant honking and heated arguments, in the towns and villages of Goa, it is the chiming of church bells and the gentle tinkle of bicycle bells that mark time.

Should susegad be mentioned in "Understand"? What about this claim, which if we mentioned it, might risk taking a side:

[A] mutual affinity between Goa and Portugal exists to this day. “Unlike the British who exploited Indian resources, the Portuguese did not consider Goa just a colony to make money from; it was actually considered a part of Portugal. Therefore, the Goans also thought them to be their own people, rather than outsiders,” he said.

Ikan Kekek (talk) 01:19, 10 July 2019 (UTC)

Don't listify[edit]

This is one of the state articles that has to be repeatedly cleared of listings. Please don't help them proliferate. Full listings need to be in city or park articles; only prose summaries of highlights with links to appropriate city or park articles should be here, no listing templates. Ikan Kekek (talk) 08:01, 28 August 2019 (UTC)