Purpose of this article
I think this is a good topic, but how should we cover it? Certainly, we can cover buying instruments and also visiting instrument factories. Should we also cover visiting museums, such as the Musical Instruments division of the Metropolitan Museum in New York or the museum in the Forbidden City that exhibits beautiful ancient Chinese classical instruments? Probably. I doubt we want to cover hearing performances of instruments, but if we do, I understand that Israel is a good place to hear taqasim on the 'ud. Ikan Kekek (talk) 04:14, 5 September 2018 (UTC)
- I'm reconsidering about performances. I think it's reasonable for us to mention Romany/Sinti violinists and where to hear them, where to hear great kora players and so forth, when there are specific places where you can hear a concentration of amazing virtuosi on particular instruments. As we discussed on your user talk page, whenever the article gets too long, we could split off different sections of it. Ikan Kekek (talk) 21:47, 5 September 2018 (UTC)
What's wrong with "guitars"?
While I agree that "orchestral" is not the best classification for cellos, violins, etc., I really don't see anything wrong with using headings like "brass" and "woodwinds" for describing groups of instruments. These are general terms used to describe the instruments and I don't think anyone is seriously going to think they are bigoted.
The same is true with "guitars". Everyone knows what a guitar is — it's a lot more straightforward than "Plucked string". Whether or not a guitar is called a guitar in every country in the world, "guitar" a term that won't confuse anyone, while the definitions of what is "plucked string" could get much more confusing and complex. Again, I really don't see any point in changing these to other names. Is calling a plucked-string instrument a guitar seriously making a political statement? Not to me it isn't. --Comment by Selfie City (talk about my contributions) 20:28, 5 September 2018 (UTC)
- I suggest that we call the section "Guitars and related instruments", since everyone will know what that means. --Comment by Selfie City (talk about my contributions) 20:49, 5 September 2018 (UTC)
- I didn't say "bigoted"; I said "ethnocentric". Any article about musical instruments worth its salt will not focus exclusively on Western classical instruments. Plucked strings encompass lutes, lyres, koras, sitars, vinas, guitars, ukeleles, lutes, harps, pipas, shamisens, kotos, zithers and many other instruments. As for "brass" and "woodwind", I simply don't think it's necessary in a travel article to distinguish between different subfamilies of wind instruments, but we could always revisit this if the article becomes overly long. Ikan Kekek (talk) 21:24, 5 September 2018 (UTC)
I really don't think we want to give general descriptions of the use of instruments nor potted histories of them. I would suggest we cover only destinations for buying, viewing or hearing performances of individual instruments or in some cases, families of instruments (e.g., a Gypsy violinist may play in a group with other strings). Ikan Kekek (talk) 22:22, 5 September 2018 (UTC)
I came across this on WP: w:Category:Musical instrument museums. Many of the museums listed are general museums which have a few instruments, but there are some more specialist ones that could be listed here. AlasdairW (talk) 00:02, 7 November 2019 (UTC)