Talk:Navigation
Navigation
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The redlink Navigation is described as:
- this would cover the use of satellite positioning systems (GPS is by far the most well-known, but units may also rely on Russia's GLONASS or the E.U.'s Galileo). Topics would include navigating with such units, types of receivers, use of such devices, & restrictions (some countries ban the import of such devices by foreigners). This topic should also incorporate info from and replace the Orienteering article, which covers map/compass navigation. This would be a great page to link from various activities which often rely on GPS receivers to navigate.
I do not agree. Navigation is the term commonly used for navigation at sea and in the air. If we have an article with that name I think it should be something suitable to link from Cruising on small craft (aviators should probably not get their navigation advice from us), perhaps on getting sea charts and nautical publications, issues in some waters, something about equipment, a very short introduction to navigation itself (mostly to give understanding about what to learn), some tricks important in some waters but neglected in others and perhaps something about how to learn the basics.
The suggested article should instead be named satellite navigation or simply GPS. The latter name may not include GLONASS & friends, but they may still be described and the page renamed in the future. It is probably the name most easily linked from other articles.
I think the navigation article can wait quite a while. There is a lot to do before we can serve boaters and navigation is the least of issues (for us, as serious boaters know how to navigate and others will find a lot of better guides on the net before stumbling over ours).
The orienteering article should be developed. I think it should not be replaced, as not everybody needing orienteering skills will need or have a navigator. Much better with an orienteering stub referring to GPS for the navigator stuff.
Merge?
[edit]This currently is not even linked from Cruising on small craft. It certainly should be.
We might even consider whether to merge this article there, since that is likely almost the only context in which a modern traveller is likely to use celestial navigation. Pashley (talk) 19:49, 6 September 2018 (UTC)
- :-)
- But I did not find a single word about celestial navigation in this article. There is some in Astronomy and in Orienteering. I think teaching celestial navigation is of even less importance for us than what the rest of this article is about, the short passages in those articles is about what I think is needed. The only ones who need to interpret celestial angles are seasoned navigators, who should rather take a proper course. (For the record, following the stars or getting the direction from the moon is useful in the woods too, I have even used the stars for taking a shortcut from the suburbs to the centre in an unfamiliar town.) Navigation in general, on the other hand, is essential for boaters and yachters. I'd still rather link than merge, as that makes it easier to develop this article without messing the other one up. --LPfi (talk) 15:02, 7 September 2018 (UTC)
VFD discussion
[edit]I think this is a really broad topic that doesn't have a very clear meaning, nor can be described or defined very easily. It's under the transportation category but doesn't really seem to quite fit anywhere. Any other thoughts on this? I don't particularly want to see it get deleted but at the same time I don't really see any direction for it. --Comment by Selfie City (talk about my contributions) 02:35, 6 September 2018 (UTC)
- This is WikiVoyage. Having no page on navigation doesn't feel right at all. I vote to keep. Ikan Kekek (talk) 05:44, 6 September 2018 (UTC)
- Keep; it is certainly a valid travel topic, though the article seems weak so far. Pashley (talk) 14:17, 6 September 2018 (UTC)
Result: kept. —Granger (talk · contribs) 01:58, 30 September 2018 (UTC)